stokes
.338 Win Mag
We didnt finish. We need to wipe out the Iranian troops, little by little, Not massive bombing, find em and send in some Warthogs and straff the shit outta them.
US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
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holdover
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lol, they been trying to do that for decades, not working
Ok , so just what the fuck is left to hit now? we beat the shit out of their navy, never had a real air force , bombed the shit out of the military, so whats left to hit? Theres not a whole lot left to bomb. so the threat makes sense .
Not civilian targets? . lol bridges are civilian targets the grid is a civilian target as well as a military one desalination plants are civilian targets
theres no way to hit those targets without Affecting the population
If you believe they are going to turn on the government and embrace the foreign invaders your nuts , not gonna happen ever .
Its going to require a ground force of immense proportions
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
what the hell is that going to do if we dont invade? and the logistics behind that kind of operation are huge , the warthogs range is 300 miles , Iran is thousands of square miles it requires fuel and tankers and ammo and a nearby land base inside Iran to be effective . turn around time has to be quick . Iran has roughly 500K to 1 million men now. they also have effective manpads which could take its toll over time on the warthogs too. They knocked down 2 or three recently .You have to have an army go in and dig them out of the mountains to defeat them
Not saying it cant be done, but the size of that kind of thing is immense
The thing is, we already destroyed their labs killed their scientists , We were told they no longer have the ability to make nukes . so whats the point? Make Israel safe again?
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
They arent testing jack shit. theres a handfull of CIA backed resistors at best. This has been tried multiple times over the years and always failed.
Not saying they love the regime, but choosing between a foreign backed government or their shitty leaders , they choose their own shitty leaders over our shitty leaders
holdover
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I wasn't aware of the grid strikes , but I was against the break up of Yugoslavia
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
You'll believe what you want, but you are wrong. This recent public discourse discussion challenging the regime mentioned in the video .... as well as the depicted civil disobedience, on Moali'Abad Blvd in Shiraz / Fars Province, towards the "Chastity and Hijab" bill (tightened by Iran's Parliment and Guardian Council in 2024) mandating compulsory veiling of their hair in public are in fact testing the regime.
Iranian law flat out mandates fines, prison sentences, and surveillance for violators shown in these videos so it does show some testing the waters with civil disobedience. Granted these are clearly not protests and are likely not widespread but those people are flouting regime mandates.
You can't have it both ways. If on one post they are called "normal Iranians Some of you want to kill " and then in a following post they can't be " a handful of CIA backed resistors".
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spat
.950 JDJ
We've already effected 2 regime changes.
We just keep playing whack-a-mole with their leadership until either their whole government falls to a revolution, or we get someone in charge who would rather play ball than die.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Sure it can, We have things in the US called protests without having to overthrow the government , Like I said , for certain there are things they dont like about their leadership, that doesn't make them revolutionaries , The intelligence has been over rated/valued . they now have the chance to rise up and overthrow the government , but they dont.
A similar thing happened in Iraq, We were told the same thing, but instead of embracing the US bombs they chose to conduct a guerrilla war for the next 10 years
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
You think playing whack-a-mole with their leadership is a good foreign policy? Hasnt worked out so far. And if past events are indicators of future probabilities, it doesnt look so good .
Personally, I believe the Iranian people will resist with everything they have , They believe the west is immoral ,homosexual,imperialists that have thier eyes on the prize of the Iranian oil fields , and the expansion of Israel . They are not going to submit to what they refer to as the great and lesser Satan . they are going to choose the lesser of 2 evils and fight for their own government, fucked up as it may be
The reality is, We are not bombing the shit out of them to ""help"" the people. thats utter nonsense the costs are enormous and the benefits are nothing. We are there to destroy the regime, secure the gulf and the Iranian oil fields and secure the safety of Israel , Keep the petro dollar alive denying or dictating to china the price of oil by securing the gulf region .
Make no mistake, Venezuela is deeply involved as iran in all this , China was very very close to Venezuela before we put a stop to it
China has little or no natural oil producing capabilities, thats their Achilles heel . Controlling the petrol dollar secures the future of the US dollar against the BRIC nations for the next 20 or 30 years .
This is an extremely complex global situation . its not just good guys and bad guys like the story they sell to the useless eaters
Bigfoot
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Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Looks like the regime is hanging a couple Iranians every day or so
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
After delivering the proposal, Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi said, “Now the ball is in the United States’ court to choose the path of diplomacy or the continuation of a confrontational approach.”
So what's this latest and greatest 14 point plan that some media says Trump should consider. I read several reports from various worldwide sources and I failed to see any Iranian language softening or concessions. It was a waste of time. Nothing really changed. They are demanding ....
Resolve all issues and end the war within 30 days (not just instead a ceasefire)
Worldwide guarantees of no future military aggression against Iran
Withdrawal of all U.S. forces from the entire middle east including Marine Embassy guards
End to any naval blockades against Iran or its partners
Release of all frozen Iranian assets
Payment of reparations to Iran
Lifting of all sanctions against Iran
End all fighting against Iranian allies in Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, and Yemen
Agreement that the entire Strait of Hormuz is Iranian territory
A mechanism for Iranian governance of the Strait of Hormuz (permission to pass, tolls, fee's, etc)
Guarantee against future aggression against Iranian nuclear scientists and sabotage to its nuclear sites.
Iran's right to uranium enrichment shall be guaranteed
Iran's right to nuclear programs (e.g. weapons) is guaranteed
No dismantling of nuclear, missle, or weapons facilities
Iran retains it's enriched fuel
Iran can maintain its missile capabilities and development as a core issue, with no concessions
I don't see how this latest proposal from Iran can be taken as an effort towards a timely peaceful settlement.
spat
.950 JDJ
I think the Iranian people are a lot less enamored with their leadership than you think.
They've executed 40,000 people so far this year for anti-government activities. You don't get that in a system where the people back the leadership.
So, I really don't think the Iranian *people* will resist anything but their own government. We kill another Ayatollah and they'll have another party.
As for "it hasn't been successful yet", you can say that about the Russians in Ukraine after several years, but you can't say that here after only a couple months.
If we're still playing this game in the fall you might have a point, but it's really dishonest to try to claim it's failed at this early point.
This war was demanded by Israel. So says the US government.
Source: State.gov - Operation Epic Fury and International Law
Padded with power here they come
International loan sharks backed by the guns
Of market hungry military profiteers
Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
Who rob life of its quality
Who render rage a necessity
Modern slavers in drag as champions of freedom
Source: State.gov - Operation Epic Fury and International Law
Direct from the state department:
"On February 28, the United States Armed Forces launched Operation Epic Fury with a set of clear objectives: to “[d]estroy Iranian offensive missiles, destroy Iranian missile production, destroy [Iran’s] navy and other security infrastructure,” and, finally, ensure that Iran “will never have nuclear weapons.”
Epic Fury is only the latest round of an ongoing international armed conflict with Iran. As the United States has explained in multiple letters to the U.N. Security Council, including most recently on March 10, the United States is engaged in this conflict at the request of and in the collective self-defense of its Israeli ally"
Padded with power here they come
International loan sharks backed by the guns
Of market hungry military profiteers
Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
Who rob life of its quality
Who render rage a necessity
Modern slavers in drag as champions of freedom
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Pretty sure, however, the David in the "David vs Goliath" thing was Jewish.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Wish they did that here, it would be a hell of a lot more than 2
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Not questioning you directly, but there is no proof of that number, thats the claim probably closer to 3k
Interesting. Apparently the story the CIA toppled the government of iran is not true.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Cant help himself, he apparently cant wait to be able to claim Trump and OUR MILITARY have been defeated.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Our response should be many more bombs if they are serious about this. None of this can happen except maybe tolls for Hormuz.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Even though the shipping lanes are supposed to be open to maritime traffic, Iran has been demanding ransom for ships in UAE and Oman territorial waters. If I get a vote they can just gofuckthemselves withapigsdick.
Sounds like the US is going to escort merchant ships through the strait starting tomorrow.
Let's see if Iran engages or not. If they do im sure we will respond and we are back to kinetic attacks.
This will be very interesting tomorrow to see what happens
Let's see if Iran engages or not. If they do im sure we will respond and we are back to kinetic attacks.
This will be very interesting tomorrow to see what happens
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Nah, I cant wait to point out how you supported this the whole time, but that day hasnt come yet , but it will. Your grasp of the situation is childish, ignorant to the point of almost fanatical .
You want to know whats gonna happen? Pick up a history book, everything is right there for you to see , but your to far behind the power curve now . The situation is dynamic and fluctuating and complex, you dont seem to have a real grasp of whats happening.
You apparently think I saying these things because I just hate Trump. LOL I voted for him 3 times. I dont agree with this war one bit because it was done on behalf of a foreign government. Our money, Our blood, Our troops. Well fuck that shit , let that third world shit hole fight its own wars
I dont think Trump can be bought, but he can be lied to
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I dont think they will, but ya never know. I guess the Russians and Chinese have given them some some serious anti ship missiles . but I think they have had enough for now .
stokes
.338 Win Mag
We are so lucky to have such a brilliant douchebag like yourself here to set us straight. Childish? Because I support our troops.? Like I told the other USA hater, fuck yourself.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Hate our troops? Your a freaking idiot, I served 8 fucking years . Your the douchbag that wants to throw away thier lives in a fucking war for another country? who cares about them again? yeah. no your childish because you dont understand a godam thing about whats going on and cant wait to see videos of death . Your a follower who cant think for himself , Yeah your a child .
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
We're living in interesting times, that's for sure.