US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

[spat]

You're not wrong, but it's also not our problem, so says the Atlantic ocean. Let Europe and Israel deal with the threats over there. I'm OK with helping them WW2 style, but this isn't that. They aren't committed and want the USA to bear all the costs (monetary and in lives) so fuck that noise.

As I said way back at the start of this thread, this action in Iran was and will always be a bad idea, at least as it's been run through now.

That sounds great in principle.

But every time we try the isolationist thing it comes back to bite us in the ass.

Way better to deal with Iran now rather than later when they have turned most of the middle east into puppet stares and have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

 

[fresch]

That sounds great in principle.

But every time we try the isolationist thing it comes back to bite us in the ass.

Way better to deal with Iran now rather than later when they have turned most of the middle east into puppet stares and have nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

Plus they will bomb anyone.

 

[spat]

Plus they will bomb anyone.

Imagine if they had nukes, and decided the only way to get past Trump's security to complete their fatwa is to smuggle a nuke into DC.

They wouldn't hesitate.

And if Trump is out of power, they'll just keep issuing demands until they get an excuse to nuke whoever is in power.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

You're not wrong, but it's also not our problem, so says the Atlantic ocean. Let Europe and Israel deal with the threats over there. I'm OK with helping them WW2 style, but this isn't that. They aren't committed and want the USA to bear all the costs (monetary and in lives) so fuck that noise.

As I said way back at the start of this thread, this action in Iran was and will always be a bad idea, at least as it's been run through now.

In 10 years we'll be staring war with an Islamic Europe in the face. A Europe that has nuclear weapons we "loaned" them , and possesses all of our operational and intelligence information.
We'll be lucky if Canada is not their ally, most certainly Denmark (and as such, Greenland by default) will be. Mexico will wait in the wings and only jump into the fight against us if we start losing.

One of Iran's goals was to be able to target CONUS with nuclear ballistic missiles from Venezuela.
Non-stop daily airline flights between Caracas and Tehran, started in 2019, was used to funnel IRGC engineers into Venezuela, and IRGC agents into mass migration into US. It is estimated by some people that 40,000 IRGC agents/terrorists, and 800 ISIS suicide bombers are in USA.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

In 10 years we'll be staring war with an Islamic Europe in the face. A Europe that has nuclear weapons we "loaned" them , and possesses all of our operational and intelligence information.
We'll be lucky if Canada is not their ally, most certainly Denmark (and as such, Greenland by default) will be. Mexico will wait in the wings and only jump into the fight against us if we start losing.

One of Iran's goals was to be able to target CONUS with nuclear ballistic missiles from Venezuela.
Non-stop daily airline flights between Caracas and Tehran, started in 2019, was used to funnel IRGC engineers into Venezuela, and IRGC agents into mass migration into US. It is estimated by some people that 40,000 IRGC agents/terrorists, and 800 ISIS suicide bombers are in USA.

Well said. I've said for years that Islam is trying to breed their way into owning a mature nuclear arsenal in Western Europe. Our "allies" might become our "enemies" once all the young Mohammads and Maliks and Yousefs grow up into military aged males.

I've also read rumors that there are hundreds of Iranian shahad drones in Cuba.

 

[Steal2B]

987K views · 21K reactions | Residents in Tehran cheered and celebrated as explosions struck near what citizens described as the Valiasr barracks and the army's joint headquarters on Sunday, videos sent to Iran International showed. | Iran Internatio

Residents in Tehran cheered and celebrated as explosions struck near what citizens described as the Valiasr barracks and the army's joint headquarters on Sunday, videos sent to Iran International showed.

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[Steal2B]

"We pledge to avenge your pure blood and the blood of all the martyrs of these two [recent] wars by taking revenge against the criminal, disgraceful murderers. This vengeance is what our nation is demanding, and this must definitely be done," Khamenei wrote.

"The criminal, disgraceful murderers of the martyred Leader, whose names are fully documented from the highest to the lowest ranks, will carry their dream of a peaceful death in bed to the grave," the new supreme leader added in his social media screed.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

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"We pledge to avenge your pure blood and the blood of all the martyrs of these two [recent] wars by taking revenge against the criminal, disgraceful murderers. This vengeance is what our nation is demanding, and this must definitely be done," Khamenei wrote.

"The criminal, disgraceful murderers of the martyred Leader, whose names are fully documented from the highest to the lowest ranks, will carry their dream of a peaceful death in bed to the grave," the new supreme leader added in his social media screed.

Sounds like a reasonable guy to negotiate with

 

[Beerman]

Sounds like a reasonable guy to negotiate with

Not saying he’s right, because he’s a certifiably insane theocratic fake “holy man,” but the guy’s desire for vengeance is completely understandable. Unjustified, misplaced, pathetic and will remain unrealized, but it makes sense. I say “Kill my father, brothers, countrymen, and I will visit upon you ten-fold pain, despair and destruction, filling you with hopelessness and dread until you are no more.” But that’s just me. Perhaps I, too, am misguided.

 

[spat]

Sounds like a reasonable guy to negotiate with

Well, the key to successful negotiations is to find a common goal.

They want to die as martyrs, and we just want them to die, so it seems like there's room for everyone to win here.

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Grimscale]

Not saying he’s right, because he’s a certifiably insane theocratic fake “holy man,” but the guy’s desire for vengeance is completely understandable. Unjustified, misplaced, pathetic and will remain unrealized, but it makes sense. I say “Kill my father, brothers, countrymen, and I will visit upon you ten-fold pain, despair and destruction, filling you with hopelessness and dread until you are no more.” But that’s just me. Perhaps I, too, am misguided.

At least you're more eloquent than the religious fanatic in Iran.
He writes threats like a third grader.

 

[Steal2B]

Explosions rock several port cities in S. Iran: state media

global.chinadaily.com.cn

 

[Beerman]

At least you're more eloquent than the religious fanatic in Iran.
He writes threats like a third grader.

Haw! I dun finnishd ferth grayd. All moast.

 

[Saltwater60]

They're our "*friend" just enough when it's convenient for them and to get what they want out of us later down the road.

I've really changed my opinion on Israel. The Israeli people might be alright but I sure don't trust their government.

I’m not sure any government should be trusted. I don’t even trust my local politicians for my city.

 

[Robin]

That is how it should be, top to bottom.
Robin

 

[Mosinitis]

I would like to congratulate all the war mongers here on quick victory, regime change and nuclear disarmament of Iran.
Lindsey Graham left this world making it a better place without him.

 

[Robin]

The dork hath spoken.
Robin

 

[Steal2B]

I would like to congratulate all the war mongers here on quick victory, regime change and nuclear disarmament of Iran.

Not sure this fine forum harbors many war mongers.

As for the sarcasm about quick victory and regime change, maybe it be better placed on the Dombass thread.



In this comparison, I'm grateful that the United States has not suffered the staggering loss of life (reported between 350,000 - 500,000 killed with up to a million more wounded) endured by the Russian people because of their leadership mistakes, miscalculations, and egos.

 

[Mosinitis]

Not sure this fine forum harbors many war mongers.

As for the sarcasm about quick victory and regime change, maybe it be better placed on the Dombass thread.

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In this comparison, I'm grateful that the United States has not suffered the staggering loss of life (reported between 350,000 - 500,000 killed with up to a million more wounded) endured by the Russian people because of their leadership mistakes, miscalculations, and egos.

Dondas is Russia, where Russian people live. Iran is in another part of the world, it doesn't have any connection to the U.S. There was nothing going on in Iran that needed to be addressed since 1978.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Dondas is Russia, where Russian people live. Iran is in another part of the world, it doesn't have any connection to the U.S. There was nothing going on in Iran that needed to be addressed since 1978.

Mexicans live in texas, does that make texas mexico?

 

[Mosinitis]

Mexicans live in texas, does that make texas mexico?

There are parts of the U.S. that were taken from Mexico, but Iran is a world away in all respects.

 

[Steal2B]

Dondas is Russia, where Russian people live. Iran is in another part of the world, it doesn't have any connection to the U.S. There was nothing going on in Iran that needed to be addressed since 1978.

As for the sarcasm about quick victory and regime change, maybe it be better placed on the Dumbass thread.

Wasn't discussing geography ... but merely brought up a sarcastic comment someone made that was ironically (and more aptly) applicable to Russia's war in Ukraine where Putin was seeking "a quick victory and regime change" with catastrophic consequences.

While we're at it, congratulations to the war mongers on the Dumbass thread for their quick victory and regime change.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

There are parts of the U.S. that were taken from Mexico, but Iran is a world away in all respects.

That's exactly my point.

Is the reconquista legit? Is Texas, actually mexico?

Should we just go along with la raza?

 

[Parzival]

There are parts of the U.S. that were taken from Mexico, but Iran is a world away in all respects.

lol, nothing was taken from Mexico. Have you ever read The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?

Conquered maybe, paid for yes…but where did the Spanish get it from? Oh yeah, they conquered it from the Aztecs.

 

[Mosinitis]

Wasn't discussing geography ... but merely brought up a sarcastic comment someone made that was ironically (and more aptly) applicable to Russia's war in Ukraine where Putin was seeking "a quick victory and regime change" with catastrophic consequences.

While we're at it, congratulations to the war mongers on the Dumbass thread for their quick victory and regime change.

Russia HAD TO get involved in the conflict that was already going on. U.S. attack on Iran was a matter of choice.

 

[Robin]

Bure bullshit.
Robin

 

[Mosinitis]

lol, nothing was taken from Mexico. Have you ever read The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?

Conquered maybe, paid for yes…but where did the Spanish get it from? Oh yeah, they conquered it from the Aztecs.

You can spin this any way you want. It was a Mexican territory lost in a war.

 

[Mosinitis]

That's exactly my point.

Is the reconquista legit? Is Texas, actually mexico?

Should we just go along with la raza?

You skipped over a few events. If there is a violent overthrow of U.S. government instigated by China, India and Russia to install a puppet government. Long Civil War that followed and former Mexican territories voting to go back to Mexico. Then yes.

 

[Parzival]

You can spin this any way you want. It was a Mexican territory lost in a war.

Cool, that’s how history works.

The Spanish took it during a war with the Aztecs, and the Aztecs took it during a war (they sacrificed their prisoners/slaves to their gods)…we can go all the way back to the Olmecs. I think the Olmec should get reparations.