GOYABEAN
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You'll have better chances that Hildebeest will go to jail
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Or design a bioweapon that predominantly attacks American DNA killing the majority of Americans while essentially getting us out of the way and leaving the land largely un affected.
Weaponizing Biotech: How China's Military Is Preparing for a 'New Domain of Warfare'
Under Beijing's civil-military fusion strategy, the PLA is sponsoring research on gene editing, human performance enhancement, and more.
www.defenseone.com
1075tech
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A couple of months ago the US moved additional troops to Germany to build up a presence there as a "show of force" to the ruskies.
My nephew was told to expect to be there "at least" 6 months
Yeah I know we have troops in “the region.” Which is much different than getting involved. The US is posturing to make sure we have an intel picture in case this war widens to a nato country.
Steal2B
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Ukraine says it repulses major attack on Kyiv base, downs 2 Russian transport planes
Heavy fighting reported in capital's Shuliavka neighborhood, hours after Zelensky warns Russians planning to storm city overnight; Russians not releasing casualty figures
www.timesofisrael.com
Blimey
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Borat approves of their decision!Reported by NBC and confirmed in UN Security Counsel statements.
Russia ally Kazakhstan denies request to join attack on Ukraine: Report
Kazakhstan, a neighbor and ally of Russia, has reportedly denied a request for its troops to join Russian forces in their invasion of Ukraine. The formerwww.washingtonexaminer.com
WTF
BerettaGuy
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As I was "flipping" through stories on YouTube I came to realize that if I were writing a movie about a zombie apocalypse or WWIII it would have today's news playing in the background, Russia attacking Ukraine, Europe on edge. Then, England goes on full alert! Poland moves troops to the border, Hungary prepares for an attack. As things accelerate China begins moving troops to the India Border and Taiwan.
Then our hero reads the Fatima Prophecies: "If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated."
He then takes comfort in knowing we will have about a 10 minutes warning of an ICBM launch toward the US. Eleven minutes later, a bright flash and total unequivocal, equality will be achieved.
Then our hero reads the Fatima Prophecies: "If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated."
He then takes comfort in knowing we will have about a 10 minutes warning of an ICBM launch toward the US. Eleven minutes later, a bright flash and total unequivocal, equality will be achieved.
Ukraine says it repulses major attack on Kyiv base, downs 2 Russian transport planes
Heavy fighting reported in capital's Shuliavka neighborhood, hours after Zelensky warns Russians planning to storm city overnight; Russians not releasing casualty figures
One excerpt
"KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s army said Saturday it had repelled a Russian attack on an army base on one of the capital city Kyiv’s main avenues and shot down several Russian aircraft, including a transport carrying paratroopers."
Those are some pretty significant losses.
There are reports of perhaps 2+ IL 76transports being shot down. Just 1 IL76 full of paratroopers is 100+ well trained troops, the flight crew and airlift capacity. That's no joke it will be noticed.
Ukraine is inflicting some casualties
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BerettaGuy
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Some are saying that Russia is not fighting at night. Won't or Can't?
holdover
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You would expect the morale of the Russian soldier to be low because of how closely related they are to Ukraine. They have relatives there,might be a factor.
That_FNG
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The Will of the soldier matter. The Russian soldiers for the most part are just doing a job they have been directed to do. The Ukrainian soldiers are fighting for their families, their homes, their neighborhoods and their country.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes, they did definitely need one.
The "news" just keeps up the constant drumbeat of "Doom!!!!".
2+ years of purposeful fear mongering with COVID.
One mess (Scamdemic) slowly subsides, and it's ludicrous power grab is relaxed (it'll be baaack!), then the Canadian trucker protest and the testing of dictatorial powers (ooops!! They don't like it??!!), which is rapidly backed away from.
The American trucker protest is just gearing up and Violai!, war!!!
Right on cue, but the media has been pumping and dumping this for weeks, so it's not a surprise to most.
And in the background, the economy is taking a huge shit due to inane energy policies. Now the Russians, specifically Putin, are the blame for rapidly rising gas prices....
Says "the media", who have been doing nothing for years but shoveling propaganda.
Believing anything these days seems to require some level of suspending reality, because the bullshit is so deep.
About my only guide on who to support comes from history on one hand - Stalin and the Holodomor for example...
And friends who are 1st generation immigrants here from Ukraine - they despise everything Russian.
Too many Americans, starting with Vietnam, have lost their lives or been injured, for what turned out to be .Gov lies...the Gulf of Tonkin "Incident" and "WMDs in Iraq" come to mind.
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From what I have heard it is more "can't". They have limited night fighting capabilities.
holdover
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It could be also indicative that they dont have enough troops in the area to hold as reserves for the second shift. They might only have enough for one shift.
MothMan
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A different take than what the MSM is spinning...
[Forwarded from Patel Patriot]
Here’s my take on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia. I’m just spitballing here. Like everybody else I have more questions than I do answers but I think this plays into Devolution.
First think about what Ukraine is – It’s the epicenter of corruption for the political establishment. Victor Pinchuk, George Soros, Ihor Kolomoisky… All funding “deep state” agendas worldwide, all based out of Ukraine. We know their ties to the Clinton foundation and liberal politics in America.
If Trump was going to truly drain the swamp, he would have to tackle the corruption in Ukraine. The oligarchs have funded their own militaries in previous color revolutions. Trump could wouldn’t be able to take them down without a fight. So if Trump is going to clean up Ukraine he would likely need boots on the ground to do it.
Enter Putin.
It’s no secret that Putin hates Soros as he banned him from Russia long ago, and it’s also no secret that Putin despised the “deep state” tactics of implementing color revolutions to overthrow pro-Russian leaders and install ones that would play ball with the “deep state”. It’s speculated by many that Putin could be working with Trump in the fight against the “deep state” and it’s hard to argue with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So think of the brilliance that might be taking place right now.
Boots on the ground were likely necessary to fully remove the problem in Ukraine, but Trump couldn’t invade Ukraine with US troops. Somebody else would have to do it. However, if somebody like Putin were to do it while Trump was president, it would make Trump look week and the media would have a field day.
What better time to clean up the mess in Ukraine than with Biden in office? Kills two birds with one invasion. You make the Biden administration and the MSM look like fools, while taking on the “deep state” in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.
Putin is simultaneously helping Trump to serve up red-pills while fixing a problem that actually benefits the USA and the rest of the world – the denazification of Ukraine.
We won’t have any definitive answers until this blows over but make sure you guys are using the 24 – hour rule with news reports coming out about this stuff.
[Forwarded from Patel Patriot]
Here’s my take on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia. I’m just spitballing here. Like everybody else I have more questions than I do answers but I think this plays into Devolution.
First think about what Ukraine is – It’s the epicenter of corruption for the political establishment. Victor Pinchuk, George Soros, Ihor Kolomoisky… All funding “deep state” agendas worldwide, all based out of Ukraine. We know their ties to the Clinton foundation and liberal politics in America.
If Trump was going to truly drain the swamp, he would have to tackle the corruption in Ukraine. The oligarchs have funded their own militaries in previous color revolutions. Trump could wouldn’t be able to take them down without a fight. So if Trump is going to clean up Ukraine he would likely need boots on the ground to do it.
Enter Putin.
It’s no secret that Putin hates Soros as he banned him from Russia long ago, and it’s also no secret that Putin despised the “deep state” tactics of implementing color revolutions to overthrow pro-Russian leaders and install ones that would play ball with the “deep state”. It’s speculated by many that Putin could be working with Trump in the fight against the “deep state” and it’s hard to argue with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So think of the brilliance that might be taking place right now.
Boots on the ground were likely necessary to fully remove the problem in Ukraine, but Trump couldn’t invade Ukraine with US troops. Somebody else would have to do it. However, if somebody like Putin were to do it while Trump was president, it would make Trump look week and the media would have a field day.
What better time to clean up the mess in Ukraine than with Biden in office? Kills two birds with one invasion. You make the Biden administration and the MSM look like fools, while taking on the “deep state” in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.
Putin is simultaneously helping Trump to serve up red-pills while fixing a problem that actually benefits the USA and the rest of the world – the denazification of Ukraine.
We won’t have any definitive answers until this blows over but make sure you guys are using the 24 – hour rule with news reports coming out about this stuff.
Toecutter
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This is a shit sandwich that will never taste good. The US can not let a country like Russia or China get an inch. This threatens the peace of the entire world. Unfortunately, the time for a strong presence is over; our weak, feckless leader assured this. Sadly, there will be no good outcome in this situation.
Uninformed and Compliant
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Toecutter
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As much as I don't want US involvement, this will not stop here. China will be the next to get aggressive. Don't let our enemys get stronger.
We should have been prepared to hit Russia so hard that putin wakes up to all his assets floating, flying, or sitting in Ukraine gone overnight. Send a message to the world; you don't want any of this. You are not ready.
We should have been prepared to hit Russia so hard that putin wakes up to all his assets floating, flying, or sitting in Ukraine gone overnight. Send a message to the world; you don't want any of this. You are not ready.
BerettaGuy
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How many troops would be required to occupy a country of 44 million that stretches in an area from Chicago to New York and Toronto to Ralegh NC.
The population of Ukraine - 44 Million
Size of Ukraine Military - 360,000
Size of Russian Military - 900,000
If this doesn't make you think twice about Putin's motives, what will?
Is this just a diversion working in consort with China?
Is this just a diversion to Syria?
If he is banking on the Ukrainians turning on themselves and accepting Russian rule then he is dumber than he looks.
Is this some backwardass plan to launch ICBM's?
It will require a system of prisons camps and massive civilian death to control 44 million people with your military.
This all could easily backfire and blow up in Putins face.
The population of Ukraine - 44 Million
Size of Ukraine Military - 360,000
Size of Russian Military - 900,000
If this doesn't make you think twice about Putin's motives, what will?
Is this just a diversion working in consort with China?
Is this just a diversion to Syria?
If he is banking on the Ukrainians turning on themselves and accepting Russian rule then he is dumber than he looks.
Is this some backwardass plan to launch ICBM's?
It will require a system of prisons camps and massive civilian death to control 44 million people with your military.
This all could easily backfire and blow up in Putins face.
Uninformed and Compliant
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God damned Russians have almost completely bombed out....
(checks notes)
Detroit
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Steal2B
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From the cheap seats it is starting to confirm that invasion gamble was ill conceived, weakly planned,and poorly executed. I personally don't see any outcome (except for the defense of one's family and future), that is worth the cost in assets, hardware, human life, propaganda, security, economies, or egos.
Yes. The logistics of pacifying and occupying Ukraine long enough to install a puppet gvt are staggering.
I don't think Russia has the resources. Especially after their initial heavy losses. Their advance has slowed considerably.
No chance Putin just quits. He will double down. He may get desperate and deploy tactical battlefield nukes. He will probably conclude he's going "all in" on taking Ukraine for his objective and The international community already hates them and sanctioned then what's the difference. He needs to save face and complete his objective.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Detroit needed a trucker type of protest instead.
The javelins are absolutely banging right now. The Russians must be livid they've had so much armor destroyed. No way they projected these types of losses.
Really curious to see how Russia responds to the US/NATO arming Ukraine with weapons being directly used as a main tactic to kill Russians and slow down their advance.
Will Russia do something to the US/NATO in response?