Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[GOPerfect]

That's called whataboutism. A propaganda technique the soviets have employed often. Iraq is not the topic here. My opinion is george bush, powell, etc. should have been brought up on criminal charges for iraq but that's another thread.

No, it is not.

I asked, what makes him so much more evil than others? What makes him evil? What makes him a monster? You said he invaded another nation, okay. So, prior to him invading, he was not a monster? Not evil?

 

[GOPerfect]

This is Nykolai and Aleksandr Kovalenko they risk their lives going deep behind enemy lines to disable Putin's missile launchers supporting his illegal invasion they're calling them "the Shake and Bake Borthers of Kyviv" don't let their sacrifices be in vain”

 

[holdover]

I posted this yesterday, here and on Twitter.

Twitter pulled down my post.

I saw that, but I did'nt realize it was Zelensky!

 

[GOPerfect]

I saw that, but I did'nt realize it was Zelensky!

The one I posted had his name on the headline....

Funny shit. Went from high heels and latex to nations hero.

 

[1341]

You win, whatever.....

Classy, to the end...

 

[holdover]

@Mosinitis was correct. This story is now being picked up in western media.

Snake Island Border Guards Who Told Russian Warship to ‘Go F*** Yourself’ Are Alive, Ukrainian Navy Says

The Ukrainian border guards presumed to have been killed in action on Snake Island are now believed to have been captured by Russian forces.

www.yahoo.com

There is some serious Orwellian 1984 ministry of truth shit going on

Lies are how they hold power. After I woke up, I realized everything were told is molded to fit an agenda.Take a look at Gun control as one instance, 80% is bullshit , Well, they do that with everything, its SOP.

 

[holdover]

The one I posted had his name on the headline....

Funny shit. Went from high heels and latex to nations hero.

I missed it.

 

[Steal2B]

It means Russia is sick of the heavy losses and slow progress. They are about to take the gloves off

Going back home is a smarter option but an ego or two are probably in the way.

There is always the other nuclear option ......

Hey Hillary, the word is Putin is going public very soon on a bunch of shit with you and Bill that he got from Epstein, Assage, Seith Rich, the Pope and Vince Foster's estate. Thought your people should know.

 

[holdover]

On FOX News they are talking about how Putin is not acting like himself.
That something is wrong with him. Most of you have probably already heard that angle being played.

Anyways, FOX actually had this on the bottom rocker or ticker whatever it's called.
"Did the pandemic drive Putin mad?"

LOL the news should not be labeled the news. I'm not sure what the correct word would be.
But what I watch on TV is not the news.

Yeah, all of a sudden he got sick, could be a threat, yadda yadda yadda. He is certainly stressed and pissed off, Ill give you that , but actually sick? Hes got covid now? Aids? Mentally ill? the same week of the attack? fucking really? I hear people talking about it too. like its true . You have to look at Main stream media like you would with twitter, some is true some is false . I cant believe anyone could still believe them after this bullshit with covid and the vaccines. Theyre agenda driven, We all have to analyze things for ourselves now.

 

[holdover]

None of any of this is "good".
It is all "bad".
Bad in the premise that it is not going to end well or may never end.
Look at the Russian alliance's Belarus, Chechnya and others. For many of them, WWII did not end until 1991 with the fall of the USSR. They are militaristic to this day,
Is it good that PUTIN is exposed? Many Putin apologists out there.
Is it good that US Foreign Policy failures are exposed? When the Clinton Bush Obama failures are pointed out you will hear people say, Now is not the time to cast blame. They are protecting those at fault.
For many of us that used to practice duck and cover, we have been here before. But as they say, The third time is the charm.
After all, we have been preparing for this since 1945.
The major shift is that after 20 or so years of living in a "fantasy" world, the shift is more of a shaking awake rather than a shift. Gives a new meaning to the word "woke".

Realize it not, the world has now changed forever. We are now on a road of no turning back , How it ends nobody knows, But it doesn't look good .

 

[Dr. Evil]

Came up with a good idea. The US trucker convoy should put Ukrainian flags on their trucks. Let's see the authorities give them a hard time then.

 

[holdover]

The propaganda over Ukraine is intense,Its everywhere. I have yet to see a Ukrainian unit destroyed, But I can understand it.

So long as the Ukrainian people believe they are winning , they will fight. the moment they have any doubts, they could surrender en mass, Its important to believe they are winning to keep them fighting, thats why they come up with the Ghost of Kiev, or the snake island heros, they need heros ,

Im not saying Russia is winning , Im saying we dont get to see both sides of the story. The Ukrainians are doing exceptionally well by virtue of citys not captured and territory not lost. On the other hand, Russia came in light . The war isnt over yet.

 

[Steal2B]

Came up with a good idea. The US trucker convoy should put Ukrainian flags on their trucks. Let's see the authorities give them a hard time then.

Some have

 

[Defilade]

I think the "putin is unhinged" story is also disinformation.

Marco Rubio goes on tv and says he can't share "classified intel" but then goes right on and.....shares classified intel regarding putin. This is to me is such obvious propaganda. It doesn't mean I think the russians should have invaded or that I am a putin fan. It is ironic that with 24/7 cable news and all kinds of smartphones/recording devices we still don't have an accurate picture of what is going on.

 

[Defilade]

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence is CONFIRMING that the garrison of Snake Island is ALIVE and has surrendered to Russian troops.

 

[Defilade]

 

[holdover]

Oh shit, he went there!! Ukraine press release about Jo jo Biden, it will be pulled soon so watch it. it pertains to laundering money to Bidens business'es. Oh no hes posting bank statements!!!LOL,

 

[Defilade]

 

[Xae289]

Wow, I've never witnessed this level of intensity in a propaganda war in my life. This is insane. So much obvious bullshit, a good deal of stuff that smells fishy, tons of mocking misinfo, and very little that's obviously true. I'll go practice with my guns and go back to buying a little extra canned food with every supermarket trip in the off-chance that'll be useful. Trying to "follow" or even get decent information on the European war is pointless. Let the victor write the history.

 

[Defilade]

 

[GOYABEAN]

Warning Graphic
Poor dog crying.

Supposedly Father & Son were found thrown in a ditch .

 

[holdover]

Oh shit, he went there!! Ukraine press release about Jo jo Biden, it will be pulled soon so watch it. it pertains to laundering money to Bidens business'es. Oh no hes posting bank statements!!!LOL,

Theres some damming shit on here you may want see. this video will be pulled from You tube shortly.

 

[SonOfSun]

No one explains these terms and what exactly he is doing that is evil.

Not counting the whole invading a sovereign nation (Ukraine) thing....


It is very likely he was behind the Moscow apartment bombings in the 90s. Bombing your own citizens as false flag path to gain power is pretty evil.

He "disappears" his critics. Many Journalists that criticize him die in suspicious circumstances.

His goal isn't just more land for Russia. Its the destruction and destabilization of the Western world. He wants to destroy your way of life. He wants you to live under a dictator authoritarian.

 

[holdover]

Rosemont Seneca LLC was owned by Hunter Biden crackhead extraordinaire payments were made through Morgan Stanley

 

[Blimey]

No, it is not.

I asked, what makes him so much more evil than others? What makes him evil? What makes him a monster? You said he invaded another nation, okay. So, prior to him invading, he was not a monster? Not evil?

He was evil prior to this. He has used violence against political opponents, loathes free speech (and imprisons those who use it), controls the media.

He is a dictator. Has been for a long time.

The guy closest on his right is the prime puppet--I mean prime minister. Clear optics here: you guys are below me. Know your place and do not question me. Classic despotic behavior.

 

[holdover]

They have everything, showing the bank statements witnesses,

 

[GOYABEAN]

He was evil prior to this. He has used violence against political opponents, loathes free speech (and imprisons those who use it), controls the media.

He is a dictator. Has been for a long time.

The guy closest on his right is the prime puppet--I mean prime minister. Clear optics here: you guys are below me. Know your place and do not question me. Classic despotic behavior.

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Where's the lazy Susan for the table

 

[Defilade]

Theres some damming shit on here you may want see. this video will be pulled from You tube shortly.

Busted!!!

 

[Defilade]

Oh shit, he went there!! Ukraine press release about Jo jo Biden, it will be pulled soon so watch it. it pertains to laundering money to Bidens business'es. Oh no hes posting bank statements!!!LOL,

The more their (Biden & company) crimes get exposed the more it needs to be covered up and war shall intensify to hide them...

 

[holdover]

I posted the bottom video , I dont know why they get attached like that.