BerettaGuy
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If it came from Russia, it must be so. Right?
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Depends how you define a disaster. As an absolute it's not a disaster, they didn't get routed and tossed out. As they should perform given their advantages I'd say it's a borderline disaster.
I bet that things aren't going the way Putin thought they would, both economically with the global sanctions and militarily with the resistance the Ukrainians are putting up.
Phazer
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When the Russians get into full "Fuck it!" mode, and bring in their bombers, then it will be an absolute disaster for Ukraine.
BerettaGuy
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Just heard that Russia "inherited" their seat on the UN Security Council from the USSR in 1991 and it was never voted on. There may be a move to unseat Russia.
Putin was well aware of Afghanistan and two Chechen wars. I doubt he expected this to be bloodless. Ukraine is a big country, that was well known.
No way this can work.
BerettaGuy
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Putin said he would not attack. Sadam bragged about "having" WMD's. When leaders lie. people die.
Uninformed and Compliant
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Legendary.
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Putin said that any attempt by Ukraine to make a move on Donbass would end Ukrainian state. Invasion into Ukraine started after shelling of Donbass escalated and Minsk agreement was rejected by Ukrainian government.
Phazer
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Effort under way to challenge Russia’s right to seat on UN security council
In wake of Ukraine invasion, diplomats consider if Russia can be removed as one of five permanent security council members
www.theguardian.com
But he also asked Guterres to distribute to the security council the legal memos written by UN legal counsel dated 19 December 1991 that the Russian Federation be permitted to join the security council as the successor to the Soviet Union. Ukraine claims the constituent republics of the USSR declared in 1991 that the Soviet Union ceased to exist, and with it should have gone the legal right of any of those entities, including Russia, to sit on the council.
No decision to permit Russia to the security council was ever put to the General Assembly. The UN charter was never amended after the USSR broke up. It still references the Soviet Union, and not Russia, as one of the permanent members of the UN security council.
Effort under way to challenge Russia’s right to seat on UN security council
In wake of Ukraine invasion, diplomats consider if Russia can be removed as one of five permanent security council members
But he also asked Guterres to distribute to the security council the legal memos written by UN legal counsel dated 19 December 1991 that the Russian Federation be permitted to join the security council as the successor to the Soviet Union. Ukraine claims the constituent republics of the USSR declared in 1991 that the Soviet Union ceased to exist, and with it should have gone the legal right of any of those entities, including Russia, to sit on the council.No decision to permit Russia to the security council was ever put to the General Assembly. The UN charter was never amended after the USSR broke up. It still references the Soviet Union, and not Russia, as one of the permanent members of the UN security council.
Russia is the legal successor of the Soviet Union and all of its treaties. There are always far fetched attempts, this doesn't have any chance of succeeding especially after 31 years.
Phazer
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Why aren't all former members of the Soviet Union considered legal successors to the seat previously held by the Soviet Union? They were all member states of that "union?"
spat
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That's not looking good for the Russians.
This isn't an evenly motivated battle.
The Ukranians are fighting for their existance as an independent people. The Russians are fighting for what exactly ?
Pretty sure the Ukrainians are way more than 5x as motivated, so a 5x casually ratio really favors them heavily.
If they keep up those numbers the Russians will have to give up long before the Ukrainians.
spat
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Nice, replace Russia with Ukraine as the permanent member LOL.
Phazer
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Not exactly. Just asking why all of the former "Soviet" republics are not given the same consideration as Russia. Perhaps they should all have had a share of the seat, through a rotation, that was previously held by the USSR. Or, perhaps, none of the former Soviet republics are legally heirs to the seat held by the USSR.
I'm not an international lawyer. I do not know the details of the UN charter. But, I know that the "USSR" has a seat on the security council according to the UN charter and that the USSR no longer exists. The UN charter does not list Russia as a member nation with a permanent seat on the security council.
According to the Wikipedia page you posted, in 1991 the former republics agreed that the USSR no longer existed and then Russia submitted a letter of intent to uphold all of the former USSR's obligations to the UN and that Russia would keep the USSR's permanent seat on the security council. There was no vote about the issue. The letter was never challenged through objection. But, perhaps the protocol used was not in keeping with the fine print of the UN charter.
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Another view. He seems to be upset with Trump not being more pro 2nd amendment and something about bailing out drug companies? Not sure what he is talking about there with the drug companies. That and a few pictures of Trump as president I assume related to the WEF and Schwab so he seems to be tying him in to the deep state. Not willing to go the far personally.
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In a remote chance this UN scheme takes place, Russia can claim that Soviet Union wasn't legally dissolved.
According to Soviet Constitution, each Soviet Republic could vote itself out, but 4 republics can't just meet and disolve the country, which is what happened.
According to Soviet Constitution, each Soviet Republic could vote itself out, but 4 republics can't just meet and disolve the country, which is what happened.
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holdover
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Napolean once said, ""Morale is to fighting, as Three is to one""
Uninformed and Compliant
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Dr. Evil
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"Truth and facts take more time to show than propaganda."
ManualF150
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U.S. delays ICBM test-launch in bid to de-escalate Russia nuclear tensions
The U.S. military said on Wednesday it will postpone a scheduled test launch of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile, in a bid to lower soaring tensions after Russia announced it was putting its nuclear forces on high alert.
www.reuters.com
ArmedCorgi
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Probably a good move.U.S. delays ICBM test-launch in bid to de-escalate Russia nuclear tensions
The U.S. military said on Wednesday it will postpone a scheduled test launch of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile, in a bid to lower soaring tensions after Russia announced it was putting its nuclear forces on high alert.
Jsmegs77
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Seriously. Can you imagine some dumbass giving the go ahead for that test, and the Russians seeing it go up on radar?
Phazer
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Phazer
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And the winner for the Bad Idea of the Year goes to..... anyone in the military that was willing to proceed with such a launch at this time.U.S. delays ICBM test-launch in bid to de-escalate Russia nuclear tensions
The U.S. military said on Wednesday it will postpone a scheduled test launch of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile, in a bid to lower soaring tensions after Russia announced it was putting its nuclear forces on high alert.
holdover
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OK , Im floating the idea that if this convoy hasnt moved out by tommorrow that they may have been hit with an EMP which fried all the electrical in the convoy. just thinking out loud.