Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
- Thread starter holdover
- Start date
Every time Russia yielded to the West it lost. Started in Germany with "take down that wall Mr. Gorbachev". Progressed to a war on his territory, ignited and fueled by the West. If Russia didn't make a stand, it would simply disappear in another few decades. Putin knows it.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Who had the means, motive and opportunity to sabotage the pipeline. Ukraine has the motive but not the means Russia has the means , but no motive. They could just shut it off, Germany doesnt have the means nor the motive they need Russian gas. UK and US has the means the motive and the opportunity.
Reunification vote passed the referendum in all of the four regions. Russia is expected to declare these regions as part of Russian Federation with all of the rights and protections.
Special Military Operation is expected to be renamed anti-terrorist operation.
If Russia is losing the war as we are told by retired generals in our media, why would Russia escalate the war it is losing?
Special Military Operation is expected to be renamed anti-terrorist operation.
If Russia is losing the war as we are told by retired generals in our media, why would Russia escalate the war it is losing?
By the way, what were the results of those referendums? I'm guessing they had high approval rates like in the high 90's.
I don't see this as odd, because most from pro-Ukrainian side already left these regions.
spat
.950 JDJ
Russia could have acknowledged that its time as a superpower was over and just accepted it's new role on the world like Britain did after WWII.
They could have become a respected member of the international community. No longer a super power, but more a peer of Germany or England, etc...
But, no, they couldn't accept that, so now they are a pariah and are going to be a peer of Iran and Syria instead.
Russia Declares Victory in Sham Ukraine ‘Referendums’
Russian leaders declared victory in a series of stage-managed, UN-condemned “referendums,” as the Kremlin moved to annex a large chunk of occupied Ukrainian territory after a string of humiliating military setbacks.
www.bloomberg.com
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
spat
.950 JDJ
Too bad for them.
So, to apease the rest of the European weakness, they should give up who and what they are?
spat
.950 JDJ
No, to survive they should.
Those ambitions are incompatible with the rest of the world. So it's either us or them.
I disagree. No country, nation, people or individual should ever give up their identity for the sake of others.
spat
.950 JDJ
Does that apply to the hood rats that think the world owes then whatever they want to take because they are "victims" ? They have a culture and are a people. But their culture is incompatible with our society, so they can't be tolerated.
If Russia thinks the world owes them Ukraine, it's just as bad.
They can do what they want inside their borders. But when they start annexing neighbors against their will, we cannot tolerate that.
Last edited:
There is recently discovered evidence of a plan to break up Russia that goes back to 1991, after the break up of the Soviet Union. When Russia was seeking friendship and alliance with the West and gave up its role as a superpower.
Last edited:
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
FOUR Russian warships and three Chinese naval ships including a guided missile cruiser are spotted off the coast of Alaska
- A routine patrol came across the Chinese missile cruiser, officials said Monday
- It sailed about 86 miles north of Alaska's Kiska Island, on September 19
- Two other Chinese naval ships and four Russian naval vessels, including a destroyer, were then spotted in single formation
-
Patrol spots Chinese, Russian naval ships off Alaska island
Two other Chinese naval ships and four Russian naval vessels, including a destroyer, were spotted in single formation, the patrol boat, known as a cutter called Kimball, discovered.www.dailymail.co.uk
Trump knew Russia was a natural ally of America.
He treated Putin firmly, but as an equal, and with respect.
What a grave we have dug for ourselves !!
He treated Putin firmly, but as an equal, and with respect.
What a grave we have dug for ourselves !!
Two things you need to know about the Ukraine:
1: Every dollar sent there is shared with Biden.
2: Every Ukraine Yard Sign shares a place with a Black Lives Matter sign.
1: Every dollar sent there is shared with Biden.
2: Every Ukraine Yard Sign shares a place with a Black Lives Matter sign.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As they told us as kids: You are judged by the company you keep as friends.
Even when their "identity" includes the deliberate ruling of other ethnicities in non-russian territories? The Russian empire consisted of all kinds of captured territories. The Soviet union maintained these territories (while decrying the "colonialism" of the west). When the USSR collapsed these separate and distinct nations and people demanded their freedom. Putin wants to re-constitute a nation that does not normally exist without force. Ethnic Russians are a minority in their own country. They have no legitimate claim to these other territories.
1341
.45 acp
Russia is not a natural ally of the United States.
World War II was a alliance of survival for the Big 3.
You are correct about Trump's treatment of Putin and how dementia Joe didn't deal with him before 2/24, which resulted in Putin digging his own grave.
Not exactly related but something that makes you go hmmm....
redstate.com
I am astonished at how chill the press and government seems to be regarding the risk of nukes being utilized.
China Brings Home 162 Nuclear Scientists (Read: Spies) From New Mexico
As Russia threatens to use nukes against the U.S. “if the West attacks Russian territory,̶
redstate.com
I am astonished at how chill the press and government seems to be regarding the risk of nukes being utilized.
This is my point I've made repeatedly.
We don't have to agree with Russia on everything. But it would have been infinitely wiser to keep Russia more aligned with us and away from China.
We should be cooperating with Russia not turn them into a pariah
Now we are going to be forced to fight them along with china at some point in the future.
This is very bad news.
1341
.45 acp
Stealing every nuke secret they can! Or what ever dementia Joe gives them in return for giving Hunter a job
This video crushes it. Well worth a watch
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
And lose support of the war? Better to keep morons in the dark, where they belongNot exactly related but something that makes you go hmmm....
China Brings Home 162 Nuclear Scientists (Read: Spies) From New Mexico
As Russia threatens to use nukes against the U.S. “if the West attacks Russian territory,̶
I am astonished at how chill the press and government seems to be regarding the risk of nukes being utilized.