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Saltwater60 said:
It’s about optics. We need to give Iran a chance to comply to be better. Not saying it’s right but that’s what it is.
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Yeah, I agree, the optics. As the Trump administration gives them every off-ramp, every opportunity. President Trump knows the terrorist regime won't take any off-ramp offered and will insist on continuing to be a fanatical predator in the region and the world. Then they leave the United States and Israel with no choice.

Then President Trump can fully unleash the US military, along with the Israeli military keeping on doing what they do, and KaBOOM! Big KaBOOOMS!

No apologies necessary, the fanatical retards were warned and offered a way to exit.
But the fanatical retards chose poorly.
 
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Bigfoot said:
As far as the so-called ceasefire goes. Either President Trump doesn't listen to his advisers. Or he does, and his advisers don't know what they're doing. Everyone knows the Iranian fanatics who are in charge can't be trusted.

Or, President Trump and his staff obviously know that, and they're setting things up for the final push. Maybe to catch Iran off guard and bomb the bridges and power plants when the human shields made up of Iranian citizens aren't there. That sort of thing.

IDK, I'm just thinking out loud. But I don't believe that President Trump or his staff thought for a second that Iran could be trusted to abide by the so-called ceasefire, so there's more to it. I think it's another chess move to achieve the actual objective(s) sort of thing.
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The real question is "who *is* in charge of Iran now". Before you can get an agreement for anything you need to know you're talking to someone who can actually implement their half of the agreement.

It's quite possible that we have *already* affected a regime change, and the new regime is even worse than the last.

The solution there is to just keep killing "supreme leaders" until you find one you can deal with.
 
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Does this ceasefire reset the 60-day clock for the War Powers Act?

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A temporary ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran does not typically reset the 60-day clock under the War Powers Resolution. :(
 
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Bigfoot said:
Does this ceasefire reset the 60-day clock for the War Powers Act?

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A temporary ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran does not typically reset the 60-day clock under the War Powers Resolution. :(
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Without boots on the ground it's not clear when the clock even started.

If we have no aircraft in Iranian airspace, does that count as "withdrawing" ?

We bombed them last summer, when did that clock reset ?
 
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fresch said:
We better hurry up and catch up. I would have thought this was all " invented" long ago.
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It was. But why would you sell uncle sam a $10 solution when they are buying $1M interceptors from you ?

It's the exact same reason Kodak was left behind in the digital photography world, despite having invented the digital camera.

They didn't want to give up film sales, so they tried to stifle digital as long as possible.
 
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Steal2B said:
View attachment 281489

Iran revealed a 10-point plan for peace with the US--Here's what's in it

The U.S. end all primary and secondary sanctions against Tehran,

Iran receive full control over the Strait of Hormuz,

An end to U.S. attacks on Iran and its allies,

A withdrawal of all U.S. forces from the entire Middle East,

The release of frozen Iranian assets

A United Nations resolution stating that the agreement will be binding.

The U.S. would also have to compensate Iran for damage incurred during the war

Accept Iran's right to enrich uranium
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Like any negotiation, start at the furthest possible point you can knowing it will go backwards from there.
 
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GOPerfect said:
Gotcha.

I'm pretty anti all the desert faiths
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I concur. Nothing but problems come from over there. I didn’t know this till recently but it finally makes sense when we import these people (3rd country Arabs) it’s not only about the great replacement but it’s also about displacing them from the Middle East so Israel can gain more control.

I know how both religions feel about people that don’t follow theirs and I’ve realized that there is no coexisting.

the one thing I’ll give respect to the Muslims for is the fact that they respect Jesus. The other ones think Mary is a whore and Jesus is bathing in shit and can’t even say his name at times. They’ll call him “JC”

one might say the past year, MAYBE two have quite “radicalized” me. But I don’t think radicalized is the right word because I just merely realized we have a problem.
 
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DoD1776 said:
I concur. Nothing but problems come from over there. I didn’t know this till recently but it finally makes sense when we import these people (3rd country Arabs) it’s not only about the great replacement but it’s also about displacing them from the Middle East so Israel can gain more control.

I know how both religions feel about people that don’t follow theirs and I’ve realized that there is no coexisting.

the one thing I’ll give respect to the Muslims for is the fact that they respect Jesus. The other ones think Mary is a whore and Jesus is bathing in shit and can’t even say his name at times. They’ll call him “JC”

one might say the past year, MAYBE two have quite “radicalized” me. But I don’t think radicalized is the right word because I just merely realized we have a problem.
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I include all of the desert religions
 
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DoD1776 said:
I concur. Nothing but problems come from over there. I didn’t know this till recently but it finally makes sense when we import these people (3rd country Arabs) it’s not only about the great replacement but it’s also about displacing them from the Middle East so Israel can gain more control.

I know how both religions feel about people that don’t follow theirs and I’ve realized that there is no coexisting.

the one thing I’ll give respect to the Muslims for is the fact that they respect Jesus. The other ones think Mary is a whore and Jesus is bathing in shit and can’t even say his name at times. They’ll call him “JC”

one might say the past year, MAYBE two have quite “radicalized” me. But I don’t think radicalized is the right word because I just merely realized we have a problem
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I have been fully aware of the vilness since my first trip to the region in 1991.

Disgusting
 
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GOPerfect said:
Gotcha.

I'm pretty anti all the desert faiths
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Stolen Signature line: "It's not God that I have a problem with, it's his Cheering section."
FWIW: I converted to Catholicism, but fell away with the previous Pope, like getting videos now with actual message and things to learn, opposed to a sermon.
 
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Bombers were in the air, the attack was in motion, and then the last hour ceasefire happened. It's a temporary ceasefire, the clock is ticking. When the time comes. Iran is going to be known as the former oil exporting nation of Iran.
 
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FP1201 said:
Stolen Signature line: "It's not God that I have a problem with, it's his Cheering section."
FWIW: I converted to Catholicism, but fell away with the previous Pope, like getting videos now with actual message and things to learn, opposed to a sermon.
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Is Orthadoxs are awaiting you!
 
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