She decides to grant, modify , or deny a stay while awaiting the appeal or until her denial appeal is sent to another SCOTUS justice . By SCOTUS rules , she gets first crack at it. The whole court doesn’t get involved yet
. It’s a yes or no to each point on the stay on injunction while awaiting the appeal to be heard. She will let the appeals court decide on the actual injunction however . The injunction is against the defendant. The laws it blocks is against the plaintiffs— but I know what you meant and we agree
Welcome to police work. The officer goes drops off their kid BEFORE the storm . This is the part many don’t understand.
And if they still can’t do it, they request a day off and pay the consequences.
A better example would be a babysitter for a nurse
That one with the cop and the babysitter doesn’t fly. They have to travel BEFORE the roads close. Trust me. I have seen this example many times.
The essential worker is if they don’t show and aren’t there during the event people die like the nurse or doctor who doesn’t show up, the power line...
Don’t even …. Enough people would say yes-lol
Be glad they don’t attempt to make a list. Someone important would be kept off .
Ask yourself . Who was the last person arrested for ignoring such. I know it has happened but I can’t remember when.
Usually they just close the highway . I remember...
Oh, wish it was that simple . That broken down car on the road keeps it from being plowed .
Irony is that while everyone is forced to stay home, the police, EMS , fire etc still have travel and risk it.
Oh, please. The man was rich before becoming their president ( and yes, probably richer with our money ) but his wife’s shopping spree isn’t indicative of it. It’s just bad taste for all the war effected they have.
That law does absolutely nothing. It’s smoke and mirrors. They still don’t have to pay bail if caught , rarely do they get prosecuted for the felony assault. Not one cop killer was prosecuted for murder 1 since the 1960’s in NYS courts. Not one.
Guys, remember that most of this CCIA nonsense is temporary. It will get struck down. It might take another year. It’s like other civil rights movements. It can take time and some set backs .
In the meantime, use the loopholes given. I tend to be well reversed in these laws compared to most LE...
Yes, it’s a government program. But it’s also a social contract because are promised that if you pay in , you will get your benefit.
And when was the last time a government social program was cut? It’s very rare when it happens if you can name any.
When social security started, it wasn’t a...
It was a program that expanded beyond its original purpose but it was contract that people made their financial decisions based upon it. It’s here to stay
If the court has issued a “ stay” on the law , yes, you would inform the officer, who would verify it. That would be “ the law” until the stay was overturned or made permanent.
Cop’s experience something similar occasionally with warrants and order of protections. The person took care of the...
Oh, I can agree with you on that. I think they should have passed a law allowing those funds to seize the debtor’s property and sell it to pay the debt. Can’t pay? — the city hall building now belongs to the creditor let him charge rent or sell it. Detroit had 600 million dollars in art when it...
So, is this how you feel about social security too? You paid into it, correct? So you should get it right?
The pensions aren’t much different except for a few facts.
It was contract made between the government and employees. The reason the pension plans were in trouble is a simple one. The...
Most cops are not going to even to attempt to enforce it without being forced into a position to HAVE to make a decision on it. The real problem is going to be like what happened in NJ to the PA corrections officer who got into a car accident. The cop did not arrest him at the scene but when the...
Your choice.
But you won’t be protecting those people. The majority of the people you would be protecting don’t live in NYC but commute in. Or came into Manhattan for a tourist attraction.
The security that protect “ those people “ are harder to get( at least the jobs people would want ).
It’s sounds as if you were selling your self short by applying for security jobs at the lower end of the spectrum. Many of us do.
Apply for the corporate security jobs that aren’t retail ( like loss prevention) or a night watchman type position.
I knew a guy who’s only experience was 4 years in...
Since I
That isn’t necessarily true. That’s the minimum for the license. I do know of two or three security companies that have very “ high speed “ active shooter training with simmuntions, basic hand to hand , and other training — better training than some of their employees had when they were...
That’s not necessarily true . Judges can fine individuals. But even so, a 10,000 fine for each violation, not including any lawsuit judgments tends to get departments to stop such activity.
Oh, really? Just wait for them to actually enforce it and then inform the judge . The lawsuits and penalties will be high. Judges don’t like that kind of stuff .
It might not be political theater . They know the replacement will be appointed by a democrat governor. Remember how they dumped Cuomo and Spitzer to make room for others . This might be more of the same .
The chief has a “ reason”— I am surprised they are attacking the permit process ( especially since Bruen okayed the permit system) instead of attacking the decision of the chief.
I don’t know CT law. Do CT corrections officers qualify for LEOSA? If so, does the plaintiff— he has to retire in...
Audit the audit is not good source. He is often wrong and misinterprets the law .
But in this case he is correct .
But that’s not the fact pattern example I gave.
It’s been to the SCOTUS and NYS Court of Apoeals . A disorderly conduct charge is pretty much in every state . It’s these court cases that define the limits of the law.
Yet it’s been upheld in many cases . And one has to know the standards set by case law on the subject to know what is and isn’t Good to go. It’s not a simple charge. OGA is an easier one to articulate.
Think of it this way, contempt of court can be very vague too.
Pissing people off can be an offense of which one can be arrested for:
S 240.20 Disorderly conduct.
A person is guilty of disorderly conduct when, with intent to cause
public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk
thereof:
1. He engages in fighting or in violent...
Either you aren’t getting it or I’m not explaining it right.
It’s not that he is pissing off the cop but is doing so to multiple people.
Example,
An emotionally disturbed person keeps knocking on the glass at a restaurant, screaming nonsense and obscenities and verbally accosting the patrons as...
The cost is picked up by taxpayers if they go to the hospital or jail. Now, the multiple calls. Why were there multiple calls? It’s not the callers going to the hospital right?
Yes, a pain in the butt can be psyched because of why there are multiple calls. And it is causing a hazard
Come deal...
Not quite. The insanity defense is still present in their actions while crazy. And by forcing the medication, the state is admitting an issue . Sometimes crazy is just clear cut,
What do you do with people who are suicidal? Or hallucinating?
No, that’s not what I said. The doctor gives them medication then declared no longer a danger to themselves and released. This includes people who attempted suicide, attacked people etc. They are routinely released once medicated .
It’s not like minority report. It has to be a clear and present . If you saw a stubbling drunk with car keys in their hand , heading to their car, should you wait until they get into the car and start it before attempting to stop him? Or should the cop stop him, call an ambulance to have him...
If they are crazy and a danger to themselves, we sure as hell want to take them off the streets . They go to the psych ward for an evaluation. That simple .
Go look at the aurora shooter. He said what he was going to do. Cruz said what he was going to do and if Sheriffs Iserael’s woke policies...
They do commit crimes . That’s why a lot of them are in jail/prison as some are complaining that they don’t belong there.
And we do want to get them off the street before they commit a serious crime like push someone in front of a train or murder their kids etc.
It’s routine everywhere in New York State and most of the country. Yes, it’s a scary power that has been misused in the past hence the SCOTUS case in the early 1970s that released the crazy people out onto the streets.
There are a lot of crazy people who are out on the streets ( or often the...