Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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Catskillkid said:
Biden says Putin ‘cannot remain in power’ as he assures Ukraine: ‘We stand with you’

Biden in a speech in Poland has come out and said that Putin cannot stay in power. Apparently the White House press corps is trying to walk back these comments (not quite sure how you do that as his words seem pretty clear to me).

This is incredibly belligerent. Losing power is perhaps the one thing that Putin fears most. If Biden keeps this up he's pushing Putin into a corner and there's not coming back where that comes from.
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So much for any peace talks or negotiating.
 
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Catskillkid said:
Biden says Putin ‘cannot remain in power’ as he assures Ukraine: ‘We stand with you’

Biden in a speech in Poland has come out and said that Putin cannot stay in power. Apparently the White House press corps is trying to walk back these comments (not quite sure how you do that as his words seem pretty clear to me).

This is incredibly belligerent. Losing power is perhaps the one thing that Putin fears most. If Biden keeps this up he's pushing Putin into a corner and there's not coming back where that comes from.
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I wouldn’t want the job to “clarify” what comes out of his mouth. He is a disastrous piece of shit.
 
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holdover said:
But We can? hypocrisy much?
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I knew you, and a few others, would respond that way as soon as I finished the post.

I reject comparisons between modern day U.S. policies and those of dictatorial states that still seek to expand their territory through military conquest and occupation.

If the U.S. acted in accordance with policies like those of Russia, we would have American puppet governments installed in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The U.S. would be in control of Kuwaiti and Iraqi oil and the U.S. would be strip mining lithium in Afghanistan.
 
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Phazer said:
I knew you, and a few others, would respond that way as soon as I finished the post.

I reject comparisons between modern day U.S. policies and those of dictatorial states that still seek to expand their territory through military conquest and occupation.

If the U.S. acted in accordance with policies like those of Russia, we would have American puppet governments installed in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The U.S. would be in control of Kuwaiti and Iraqi oil and the U.S. would be strip mining lithium in Afghanistan.
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We took California from Mexico and unlike Ukraine and Russia, it was never ours.
 
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Phazer said:
If the U.S. acted in accordance with policies like those of Russia, we would have American puppet governments installed in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The U.S. would be in control of Kuwaiti and Iraqi oil and the U.S. would be strip mining lithium in Afghanistan.
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Tell me your joking, We dont have an installed regime in Iraq favorable to the US ? Kuwait, we never were at war with, and Afghanistan we had to pull out after trying to install puppet government. We still have troops in Japan and Germany both of which are still favorable to US

We cant be impartial to the mistakes we made. Our government has overthrown governments and attempted to over throw governments . it has supported revolutionaries and terrorists in the past . We are guilty too. What legal cause do we have in Syria right now? We are involved in an undeclared war where we train and back revolutionaries.

I hate to shit on my own country, but were no fucking angels either. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting there is a problem.

As far as Putin goes, The guy has a legitimate point. You cant put armies on his border then claim, its his fault for attacking after warning for years that is line that cant be crossed. He wasnt threating NATO, He was threating the new global system .

Wheres the harm in calling Ukraine a neutral country like Finland ? Thats unacceptable terms to NATO . WTF is that?
 
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holdover said:
Tell me your joking, We dont have an installed regime in Iraq favorable to the US ? Kuwait, we never were at war with, and Afghanistan we had to pull out after trying to install puppet government. We still have troops in Japan and Germany both of which are still favorable to US

We cant be impartial to the mistakes we made. Our government has overthrown governments and attempted to over throw governments . it has supported revolutionaries and terrorists in the past . We are guilty too. What legal cause do we have in Syria right now? We are involved in an undeclared war where we train and back revolutionaries.

I hate to shit on my own country, but were no fucking angels either. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting there is a problem.

As far as Putin goes, The guy has a legitimate point. You cant put armies on his border then claim, its his fault for attacking after warning for years that is line that cant be crossed. He wasnt threating NATO, He was threating the new global system .

Wheres the harm in calling Ukraine a neutral country like Finland ? Thats unacceptable terms to NATO . WTF is that?
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If the leaders of our country truly had our country's best and our people's best interests at heart, they wouldn't be doing what they have been doing. Using this country's wealth, power and patriotism to further their own personal goals and line their pockets.
 
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pjzwtl said:
It was never really there’s either
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The humans who originally discovered it have been long forgotten, probably 5 or 10 conquests ago.

We have no idea what they even called themselves.

Right of conquest is a thing. We have simply decided not to exercise it anymore, and not to let anyone else. It goes hand and hand with slavery

If we chose to bring that back, we would bring back manifest destiny with it, Ot would include more than just the western hemisphere this time. Putin would not have to worry about Ukraine. O cound see him leading the European resistance maybe.
 
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Grimscale said:
Your link doesn't show the same video as the quote. Do we know if the new one is also video game footage?
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Two tail strikes with the exact same smoke pattern, and neither heli has any problem with not having a tail rotor. Probably because the onboard engineering class was able to fix it in mid-flight.

All of the down-in-flames are pretty much identical as well, and there's no time delay between seeing an explosion and hearing it.
 
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Uninformed and Compliant said:
and neither heli has any problem with not having a tail rotor.
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They are supposedly Russian K-52 Attack choppers. These are a dual rotor design that does not have a tail rotor.

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But I agree with your other statements. The explosions and remains falling all appeared identical.

I was just hoping for a link proving it was a simulation to forward to my friend.
 
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