And in the end Russia will die by slow suicide. They are in a terminal demography state right now (more deaths than births). Their population will continue to fall each year going forward. It is likely what we call "russia" will look quite different by 2050 or may not even exist in its current form.
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Blimey
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Your last sentence defines it, and is also why this is ethnic cleansing.
Blimey
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Yet more evidence putin screwed up spectacularly. Once finland joins NATO there is another 1000+ km of nato border up against russia.
Tough shit, Sergei.
www.newsweek.com
Tough shit, Sergei.
Finland Races Toward Likely NATO Membership as Putin's Warnings Backfire
"Russia is not the neighbor we thought it was," said Finland Prime Minister Sanna Marin.
www.newsweek.com
holdover
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Nope. You weaken the definition when you use the term loosely, Like when people say NAZI all the time. For the most part, the people of Ukraine are Russian people , So Ethnic Cleansing doesn't even make any real sense.
Kinda like the US going into Canada and ethnically cleaning Canada. Were basically the same people with a different history.
Plus, the evidence doesn't stand up. Ethnic Cleansing is a war crime, but a war crime isn't necessarily Ethnic Cleansing. In other words crimes may have been committed, But an organized effort to eliminate the population isnt there
Anyone watching this BBC video can see that narration doesn't match what is being shown.
MSM trash.
1341
.45 acp
Actually they are a Slavic people, not Russian.
They come from old Russ and so do Russians.
Bigfoot
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Those who control the language. Controls the argument.
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Uninformed and Compliant
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When Wm The Conqueror took the throne, he didn't change the laws -
He seated foreigners to reinterpret them.
Blimey
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Not so. They are ukranian and they speak a different language.
These figures are from the 2001 Ukraine census representing the percent in that region who speak russian as a first language.
I know what watering terms down means. Russians hate ukranians and call them khokhols. They hate the concept of it and think it's a fake country.
Russia does not want ukraine to exist; it wants it to be part of russia. Removing a country, and murdering thousands of civilians--many of whom are tied up and have obviously been tortured and raped, for being ukranians--absolutely qualifies as ethnic cleansing/genocide. This is why several european governments are now using that term.
In the last day the language from europe has taken a very nasty turn for Russia. They are now talking about an all out ban on russian energy imports. The best description of modern russia is a gas station run by thugs, so without its best customers it will be in even more shit.
Germany is a hold out on sanctions because they have structured so much of their energy from these subhuman savages. Bucha is changing everything.
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EU must end all economic ties to Russia as fast as possible, German finance minister says
The European Union must work toward cutting all economic ties with Russia over its "criminal" war in Ukraine, German Finance Minister Christian Lindner said on Monday, but cast doubt over an immediate embargo on Russian gas imports.
www.reuters.com
Uninformed and Compliant
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Little bit of Pizza Gate going on...
Lots of new pictures of dead people in the Ukraine.
Historians puzzled at how Mosul Iraq, a city of 3 million, was flattened twice with American airstrikes in 2003 and 2017, without a single photograph of dead bodies being published.
Interesting how a bit of time and propaganda change things.
Historians puzzled at how Mosul Iraq, a city of 3 million, was flattened twice with American airstrikes in 2003 and 2017, without a single photograph of dead bodies being published.
Interesting how a bit of time and propaganda change things.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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I have a hard time believing anything I didn't see with my own eyes anymore. Whatever they are doing over there, it would be easy to make the pictures/videos fit the narrative. Only on the ground eyewitnesses know for sure how bad it is or isn't.Not so. They are ukranian and they speak a different language.
These figures are from the 2001 Ukraine census representing the percent in that region who speak russian as a first language.
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I know what watering terms down means. Russians hate ukranians and call them khokhols. They hate the concept of it and think it's a fake country.
Russia does not want ukraine to exist; it wants it to be part of russia. Removing a country, and murdering thousands of civilians--many of whom are tied up and have obviously been tortured and raped, for being ukranians--absolutely qualifies as ethnic cleansing/genocide. This is why several european governments are now using that term.
In the last day the language from europe has taken a very nasty turn for Russia. They are now talking about an all out ban on russian energy imports. The best description of modern russia is a gas station run by thugs, so without its best customers it will be in even more shit.
Germany is a hold out on sanctions because they have structured so much of their energy from these subhuman savages. Bucha is changing everything.
EU must end all economic ties to Russia as fast as possible, German finance minister says
The European Union must work toward cutting all economic ties with Russia over its "criminal" war in Ukraine, German Finance Minister Christian Lindner said on Monday, but cast doubt over an immediate embargo on Russian gas imports.
The world will not give up Russian energy long-term. If they really want to, the term will become Putin/Kremlin energy, and there will have to be a regime change so the world can pretend it feels better about *who* it gets its oil from. Regime change will require a heavy US involvement, and even if it is indirect, Russia would retaliate. That probably won't end well.
Ukraine and Russia should sort this out. Not Biden, not the US, EU, NATO, etc. Even if Russia takes half of the country, why should anyone but the Ukrainians really give a fuck? If they don't like it, they better start fighting a little harder.
BTW, just wait and see who the dead civilians are.
My bet, the overwhelming vast majority of them will either be Russians, or Ukrainians that side with Russia.
Wait for it.
My bet, the overwhelming vast majority of them will either be Russians, or Ukrainians that side with Russia.
Wait for it.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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The story won't be told if that is the case.
holdover
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at this point if they told the truth they would probably burst into flame
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Thats my understanding.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It would be great if Biden and the others were as concerned for our own borders and national security.
spat
.950 JDJ
Like the people who call every form of bigotry racism.
Mexican is not a race, it is a nationality. Someone who is bigoted against Mexicans is not necessarily racist. Same for Chinese.
1341
.45 acp
No they did not just show up around the 9th century in the kievan rus empire. They probably came from a tribe of indo eurasian ethnicity called the veneti that inhabited the area of modern day Belarus, Poland and Ukraine
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Exactly! 2+2 doesn't equal 4 if information in the equation is withheld (-1 ) 2+2-1=3 , because I never gave you complete information.
By withholding information I have control of your answer. This happens in the media all the time , by controlling the information you have, Your opinion can be skewed . Its lying by omission. Its very subtle and difficult to dispute unless you do have the information.
You can see this lot in Police videos , the media says one thing, then later you on you are presented with the rest of the video or facts. Omission. sometimes dismissed as stupidity.
When they say that the Japanese launched a surprise, and unprovoked attack against Pearl harbor, people react one way. But If they say they launched an attack because of an Oil embargo placed on them By the British and US navy. And the Japanese have no natural oil, It changes peoples opinion of what happened.
The moral of the story is information is power because it is with information that opinions are formed and controlled. Propaganda is a perfect example of misinformation . Thing is, We are bombarded with information, and misinformation daily, depending on who's selling what .
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holdover
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Slavic languages belong to the Indo-European family. Customarily, Slavs are subdivided into East Slavs (chiefly Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians), West Slavs (chiefly Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, and Wends, or Sorbs), and South Slavs (chiefly Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Slovenes, Macedonians, and Montenegrins).
Is Russia considered a Slavic country?
Russia is now the most powerful and populated Slavic country, but in the 10th century Serbs and Czechs were powerful, in 13th and 14th century Serbs were powerful, and in the 16th century Poland was the strongest nation in the area. The Slavic languages are closely related.
What is the race of the Russians?
The Russians (Russian: русские, romanized: russkiye) are an East Slavic ethnic group native to Eastern Europe, who share a common Russian ancestry, culture, and history.
Are Germans Slavic?
In Eastern Germany, around 20% of Germans have historic Slavic paternal ancestry, as revealed in Y-DNA testing. Similarly, in Germany, around 20% of the foreign surnames are of Slavic origin.
Are Slavs and Vikings related?
Slavic tribes and Viking tribes were closely linked, fighting one another, intermixing and trading.Jul 26, 2019
Ukrainian is the official language of Ukraine. It's a Slavic language, which means it's related to languages such as Russian, Czech, and Polish. This is a huge language family with lots of linguistic diversity, so modern Ukrainian shares some commonalities with its closest relatives, Russian and Belorussian, and fewer with its more distant cousins
This is very much Like Latin in Europe. The Italians , French, Spanish share similar roots , words, grammer, but are different languages
Im not an expert on American Indian languages, But I would hazard a guess that They also had similar historys , but different Languages
The Crow Indians in the west, and the Cherokee in the East , had different languages , but both were considered Indian languages with related backgrounds. I would think the same thing applies to Mandrin and Cantonese , both are Chinese languages with similar roots.
Is Russia considered a Slavic country?
Russia is now the most powerful and populated Slavic country, but in the 10th century Serbs and Czechs were powerful, in 13th and 14th century Serbs were powerful, and in the 16th century Poland was the strongest nation in the area. The Slavic languages are closely related.
What is the race of the Russians?
The Russians (Russian: русские, romanized: russkiye) are an East Slavic ethnic group native to Eastern Europe, who share a common Russian ancestry, culture, and history.
Are Germans Slavic?
In Eastern Germany, around 20% of Germans have historic Slavic paternal ancestry, as revealed in Y-DNA testing. Similarly, in Germany, around 20% of the foreign surnames are of Slavic origin.
Are Slavs and Vikings related?
Slavic tribes and Viking tribes were closely linked, fighting one another, intermixing and trading.Jul 26, 2019
Ukrainian is the official language of Ukraine. It's a Slavic language, which means it's related to languages such as Russian, Czech, and Polish. This is a huge language family with lots of linguistic diversity, so modern Ukrainian shares some commonalities with its closest relatives, Russian and Belorussian, and fewer with its more distant cousins
This is very much Like Latin in Europe. The Italians , French, Spanish share similar roots , words, grammer, but are different languages
Im not an expert on American Indian languages, But I would hazard a guess that They also had similar historys , but different Languages
The Crow Indians in the west, and the Cherokee in the East , had different languages , but both were considered Indian languages with related backgrounds. I would think the same thing applies to Mandrin and Cantonese , both are Chinese languages with similar roots.
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spat
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A race is defined by distinct genetic differences that set them apart from the reat of humanity.
Culture, language, or religion do not a race make.
You inherit your racial makeup genetically from your biological parents. All the rest you acquire from the people and environment you were raised in.
If you adopt a newborn Chinese baby, it will grow up to be American in Culture, language, religion, and every other important characteristic, But racially it will always be Asian.
Modern woke theory says race doesn't exist while at the same time saying everyone is racist and a particular hair style or fashion choice is exclusive to one race (that doesn't exist). This makes even less sense than their economic policy.
The reality is that there are 3 races defined by a few distinct but superficial genetic differences.
Most people have some elements from each, but get the majority of their traits from one group.
GOYABEAN
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Blimey
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This is not something to be proud of. If you cannot put trust in others how can you navigate the world? You have to identify those who trust, put them on a scale of legitimacy if you like, and move ahead. If you deny anything you've not seen with your own eyes how do you believe anything in history? Did any of it happen? Is Biden the president? Do the great pyramids exist? Is Tom Cruise a real person?
Here is drone footage of fascists using an auto-cannon on somebody on a bicycle:
Here is video of facists after murdering civilians:
Here is a boy whose mother was murdered by fascists:
Or you can take the nihilistic view that none of this is true and none of it matters.