Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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President Vladimir Zelensky, who during a 5-minute address last evening stated:

“We are unable to break the Russian army’s advantage in artillery and manpower, and this is very much felt in the fighting, especially in Donbass…Peski, Avdeevka, other directions…It’s just hell there…It cannot even be described in words


Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov who’s embedded with the military in Donbass, and just posted an expletive-laden report from Peski calling it a “meat grinder”, wherein he revealed: “There is no counter-battery fire, none at all…Russian forces are firing 6,500 shells per fucking village in less than 24 hours…It’s been like this for six days now, and it’s hard to fathom how any number of our infantry remain alive under this barrage…Without counter-battery fighting, it turns into a senseless meat grinder, where huge numbers of our infantry are chewed up in one day…A reserve platoon that tried to advance was taken apart in minutes, with only one out of 15 men left unharmed…All the reserves are spent, the military equipment goes up in flames, and the enemy approaches and takes our positions without any problems after another barrage of artillery…Right now we are losing Péski, all our human and material capabilities are almost exhausted”.

 

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Once these next few citys fall, its going to be a race to Dnipro. The Ukrainian front is cracking.

 

[Mosinitis]

 

[holdover]

I love that guy. I agree with him 100%

 

[diggs223]

How long before zelensky disappears with the money he's stolen ?

 

[fresch]

Less 10% for the big guy, you know the thing.

 

[holdover]

I liked him better when he just sold auto parts

 

[tirwin1]

Not a headline I expected to see:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/100000-north-korean-soldiers-could-be-sent-to-bolster-putins-forces-fighting-ukraine/news-story/1126782c8c5e6fe08a8ad2d9fa38dff0

Not sure I buy this. Would be a sure sign of russian weakness if it ever came to pass.

 

[Bigfoot]

WASHINGTON, Aug 5 (Reuters) - The Biden administration's next security assistance package for Ukraine is expected to be $1 billion, one of the largest so far, and include munitions for long-range weapons and armored medical transport vehicles, three sources briefed on the matter told Reuters on Friday.

Exclusive: U.S. readies new $1 billion Ukraine weapons package

The Biden administration's next security assistance package for Ukraine is expected to be $1 billion, one of the largest so far, and include munitions for long-range weapons and armored medical transport vehicles, three sources briefed on the matter told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Bigfoot]

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the South China Morning Post on Thursday that he would like to discuss his country’s war against Russia with the leader of Russia’s closest ally, Xi Jinping, “directly,” and invited China to help rebuild Ukraine once the war is over."

Volodymyr Zelensky Asks Xi Jinping for Talks, Invites China to Rebuild Ukraine

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he would like to discuss his country's war against Russia with Xi Jinping.

www.breitbart.com

 

[fresch]

And China takes over the world and never loses a man.

 

[holdover]

Un confirmed but plauseable reports:



@Andjela_Sipovac


the background of massive losses of Ukrainian troops in Nikolaev direction, soldiers of units of 59th Motorised Infantry Brigade and 61st Infantry-Jaeger Brigade as well as 35th Marine Brigade have refused to follow the order for offensive, are abandoning their positions and


11:40 AM · Aug 6, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

 

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Heres a map I found today its from four days ago . Take a look at the armored brigades , there are 4 degraded armor units left (OVALS) on the Donbass front, 3 are out of normal artillery range in the rear to try to stop any break thoughs .If , when the Russians break through, there is nothing but wheat and traffic lights to stop them . Unless the Uki infantry can run really fast they will be cut off and annihilated.

Once the Russians take Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, its pretty much over. The cream of the Ukrainian army will have been pretty much destroyed and only civilians and conscripts will be fighting in the center. Any fighting beyond that point is just a waste of lives , there will be no path to victory . In my opinion, its already over. just a question of how long the Ukis want to fight.

 

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[livingston]

Earlier in this thread we were assured that none of these arms were flowing to the world market. ....

 

[livingston]

Arming Ukraine | CBS Reports​

Flooding a country with advanced weapons can have grave consequences, even when done with the best of intentions. This CBS Reports documentary goes inside Ukraine to get a firsthand look at how military aid gets from the border to frontline soldiers, and explores the difficulties of getting the aid to the fighters who need it.

 

[Bigfoot]

“There are reports that 100,000 North Korean volunteers are prepared to come and take part in the conflict,” Korotchenko said on Russian Channel One.

"The pariah state’s offer of military assistance could not be immediately verified,"

Russian state TV: North Korea offering Kremlin 100,000 ‘volunteers’

The pariah state’s offer of military assistance could not be immediately verified, but it was seized upon by Russian defense pundit Igor Korotchenko.

nypost.com

 

[livingston]

“There are reports that 100,000 North Korean volunteers are prepared to come and take part in the conflict,” Korotchenko said on Russian Channel One.

"The pariah state’s offer of military assistance could not be immediately verified,"

Russian state TV: North Korea offering Kremlin 100,000 ‘volunteers’

The pariah state’s offer of military assistance could not be immediately verified, but it was seized upon by Russian defense pundit Igor Korotchenko.

nypost.com

volunteers .. ?

 

[1341]

Does anyone really think little Kim, who is more paranoid about covid then a fauci bro, is going to let 100,000 nk's leave the country and then come back sometime.

 

[Mosinitis]

How is alienating Russia working out?

If we have the best political system in the world, why are we led by dementia stricken reprobate?

If Russians share their rocket technology with NK in exchange for participation of NK troops in Ukraine, we are fucked on two fronts.

 

[fresch]

Does anyone really think little Kim, who is more paranoid about covid then a fauci bro, is going to let 100,000 nk's leave the country and then come back sometime.

Sure, the money the money.

 

[spat]

Not a headline I expected to see:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/100000-north-korean-soldiers-could-be-sent-to-bolster-putins-forces-fighting-ukraine/news-story/1126782c8c5e6fe08a8ad2d9fa38dff0

Not sure I buy this. Would be a sure sign of russian weakness if it ever came to pass.

They're already using every foreign troop they can get their hands on.

It wouldn't be new.

 

[spat]

Does anyone really think little Kim, who is more paranoid about covid then a fauci bro, is going to let 100,000 nk's leave the country and then come back sometime.

Who said anything about them coming back ?

 

[holdover]

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Amnesty International, Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians​

• Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals
• Attacks launched from populated civilian areas
• Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians

Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm’s way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals, as they repelled the Russian invasion that began in February, Amnesty International said today.

Such tactics violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians, as they turn civilian objects into military targets. The ensuing Russian strikes in populated areas have killed civilians and destroyed civilian infrastructure.

“We have documented a pattern of Ukrainian forces putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas,” said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.

“Being in a defensive position does not exempt the Ukrainian military from respecting international humanitarian law.”

Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians

Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm’s way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals, as they repelled the Russian invasion that began in February, Amnesty International said today. Such tactics violate...

www.amnesty.org

Its a war. You do what you have to do . But stop telling me Its a good guy bad thing. Both sides have thier moments.​

 

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Amnesty International, Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians​

• Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals
• Attacks launched from populated civilian areas
• Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians

Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm’s way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals, as they repelled the Russian invasion that began in February, Amnesty International said today.

Such tactics violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians, as they turn civilian objects into military targets. The ensuing Russian strikes in populated areas have killed civilians and destroyed civilian infrastructure.

“We have documented a pattern of Ukrainian forces putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas,” said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.

“Being in a defensive position does not exempt the Ukrainian military from respecting international humanitarian law.”

Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians

Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm’s way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals, as they repelled the Russian invasion that began in February, Amnesty International said today. Such tactics violate...

www.amnesty.org

Its a war. You do what you have to do . But stop telling me Its a good guy bad thing. Both sides have thier moments.​

We're all bad guys, but only one side is the aggressor in Ukraine.

Russia can pack up and go home at any time.

Ukraine doesn't have that luxury.

 

[Mosinitis]

Ukraine is a RUSSIAN TERRITORY, Westerners are outsiders. Our refusal to honor international agreements works both ways.

 

[Mosinitis]

 

[Mosinitis]

Mr. Gorbachev took down the wall in Germany, but for us moving East and getting inside his country to start a conflict that brought it to a war, wasn't a part of a deal. Historical justice is on the Russian side.

 

[GOPerfect]

MSN

 

[Mosinitis]

MSN

This plant is under Russian control since February. Why would they shell their own territory?

Ukraine risking another Chernobyl – Russia

Russia has warned that Ukrainian troops risk causing a nuclear disaster similar to Chernobyl

www.rt.com