US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

[spat]

Yep lesson learned. the whole world now sees that if you dont have Nuclear weapons country's like Israel and the US can dictate national policy's. the non nuclear proliferation treaty is as good as dead . And If Iran isnt totally wiped off the map , next time they will have nukes and next time they will strike first or some other mid east country.

The big picture that you ignore is the life and death of the petro dollar, lack of western central banks in Iran , mideast, control of the Oil markets, how that effects china and her silk road. its more of a war of global domination than it is a war on terrorism

Heres the silk road pay attention to what countrys it runs through , Iran and Ukraine

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The other side of that lesson is "if you don't already have nuclear weapons, don't try to get them or we'll kill you".

Too bad we couldn't have implemented that in 1945.

 

[holdover]

I'm fine with the US going for global domination, after all, someone's going to dominate.
I would rather it be American domination than some other fanatically religious Islamic country or a Communist country.

My point is, its bullshit . Its not about threats to our homeland, its about power and control . Im not buying the story they're selling thats all

 

[GOPerfect]

BTW, I am America only.

 

[stokes]

My point is, its bullshit . Its not about threats to our homeland, its about power and control . Im not buying the story they're selling thats all

Maybe so, but if we publicly declare we are out for global domination we'd be under the same gun Iran is under right now, from Russia and China. Muzzies have been declaring their desire for world domination for centuries, its in their good book. And this is what it gets them, fuck em.

 

[holdover]

The other side of that lesson is "if you don't already have nuclear weapons, don't try to get them or we'll kill you".

Too bad we couldn't have implemented that in 1945.

LOl, your a fucking madman. Your going to dictate who does what by threat of nuclear war.

You must die so that we may live policy. Children of the enemy are the enemy no exceptions kill anyone that is not for us .

And Im trying to reason with you? I cant reason with a man who believes in absolute power over the earth . Your solutions to problems are fanatical and genocidal. I can see why you support the annihilation of Israels enemy's right down to the children and animals. I get it, your as crazy as they are . Put Israels interests above our own as they laugh at our stupidity . Your a real America 2nd Zionist .

 

[spat]

LOl, your a fucking madman. Your going to dictate who does what by threat of nuclear war.

You must die so that we may live policy. Children of the enemy are the enemy no exceptions kill anyone that is not for us .

And Im trying to reason with you? I cant reason with a man who believes in absolute power over the earth . Your solutions to problems are fanatical and genocidal. I can see why you support the annihilation of Israels enemy's right down to the children and animals. I get it, your as crazy as they are . Put Israels interests above our own as they laugh at our stupidity . Your a real America 2nd Zionist .

 

[GOPerfect]

Well, if we are talking about world dominance.... I hope the US learns from the mistakes of other great leaders throughout history.

 

[GOPerfect]

Maybe so, but if we publicly declare we are out for global domination we'd be under the same gun Iran is under right now, from Russia and China. Muzzies have been declaring their desire for world domination for centuries, its in their good book. And this is what it gets them, fuck em.

I could make world dominance a thing....

 

[holdover]

Maybe so, but if we publicly declare we are out for global domination we'd be under the same gun Iran is under right now,

Yep thats my point. What this shit is really about . Not these Coca Cola lies.

 

[holdover]

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Not a straw man.

noun: strawman

1. 1.
   an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

Its perfectly clear your pro Zionist , which places Israel above the US

 

[JunkBoxFull]

 

[Steal2B]

 

[Steal2B]

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2026/04/08/saudi-arabia-says-nine-drones-intercepted-in-recent-hours

 

[Steal2B]

 

[JunkBoxFull]

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Somebody gonna get lit up!!!! I`m gonna go make some mo popkorn!

 

[Steal2B]

Donald Trump says US initiating move to 'clear out' Strait of Hormuz, cites global shipping security

US President Donald Trump stated America is beginning to clear the Strait of Hormuz. This move aims to ensure safe global energy shipments. Trump criticized other nations for not taking responsibility for securing the vital oil route. He also claimed Iran's military capabilities are...

m.economictimes.com

Trump says US starts clearing Strait of Hormuz

www.iranintl.com

 

[spat]

Not a straw man.

noun: strawman

1. 1.
   an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

Its perfectly clear your pro Zionist , which places Israel above the US

Most of the positions you accused me of taking in that post I have never come close to.

Thus, the straw man.

Even this post you can't help but drag out another straw man. Pro Zionist doesn't have anything to do with "placing Isreal above the US".

It's like you have invented an entire fictional universe in your head to justify your beliefs.

 

[Steal2B]

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Donald Trump says US initiating move to 'clear out' Strait of Hormuz, cites global shipping security

US President Donald Trump stated America is beginning to clear the Strait of Hormuz. This move aims to ensure safe global energy shipments. Trump criticized other nations for not taking responsibility for securing the vital oil route. He also claimed Iran's military capabilities are...

m.economictimes.com

Trump says US starts clearing Strait of Hormuz

www.iranintl.com

STEVE FORBES: No more delusions — America has to finish the job in Iran

The author argues the West must not waver on Iran, urging Strait of Hormuz bypass pipelines and resumed pressure after Islamabad negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Defilade]

Artemus II is doing just fine apparently. Actually I havent seen much of it on TV or anywhere else. Is that another US endeavor you'd like to see fail? Why dont you just go live in Iran and help them fight the US. But what does any of that have to do with you believing a hairbrained idea that the world is flat?

Yes Hollywood is still up and running. Another adventure of Star trek money laundering is at hand. I have done 2 combat deployments in my younger days. Free free to strap your boots on and doing some sacrificing instead of running your mouth of what you don't know.

 

[Defilade]

LOl, your a fucking madman. Your going to dictate who does what by threat of nuclear war.

You must die so that we may live policy. Children of the enemy are the enemy no exceptions kill anyone that is not for us .

And Im trying to reason with you? I cant reason with a man who believes in absolute power over the earth . Your solutions to problems are fanatical and genocidal. I can see why you support the annihilation of Israels enemy's right down to the children and animals. I get it, your as crazy as they are . Put Israels interests above our own as they laugh at our stupidity . Your a real America 2nd Zionist .

Either that or he really is that scared. Shaking in his boots. I'm sure he would be a huge supporter of a draft also.

 

[holdover]

Most of the positions you accused me of taking in that post I have never come close to.

Thus, the straw man.

Even this post you can't help but drag out another straw man. Pro Zionist doesn't have anything to do with "placing Isreal above the US".

It's like you have invented an entire fictional universe in your head to justify your beliefs.

Or it's true.your fanatical support speaks for it self.you don't see the beam in your own eye.

 

[Bigfoot]

< sigh > facepalm.

This is why interesting threads get ruined.
And it's always the usual suspects.

 

[Bigfoot]

USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121)

 

[Bigfoot]

I can't find any updates on the peace talks and how they're going or have gone.
Maybe it's too early for updates or results yet. IDK.

But it seems the talks have actually happened or are happening.
I didn't think they would.

 

[Steal2B]

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USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121)
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Except neither of the ships we claim are clearing the Strait of mines are our up close and personal Avenger Class minesweepers or one of our two dozen Littoral Independence Class /Austal or Freedom Class / Lockhead modulars rigged for more remote minesweeping (and replacing the Avenger class fiberglass and wood ships). Missle Destroyers ain't real mineseeepers.

Looks like this is more PR from a west wing desk than an effort to clear mines (if there even are new mines deployed). At least it shows that two US warships passed through unscathed.

 

[spat]

Or it's true.your fanatical support speaks for it self.you don't see the beam in your own eye.

Well, we can let the rest of the thread participants judge that one.

But I don't think "not reflexively assuming the US is the bad guy in every international conflict" qualifies as "fanatical support".

 

[stokes]

Yes Hollywood is still up and running. Another adventure of Star trek money laundering is at hand. I have done 2 combat deployments in my younger days. Free free to strap your boots on and doing some sacrificing instead of running your mouth of what you don't know.

While I respect and would offer my thanks for your service, I wont get into a pissing match with a moron that thinks the world is flat. Carry on.

 

[Defilade]

While I respect and would offer my thanks for your service, I wont get into a pissing match with a moron that thinks the world is flat. Carry on.

Think you could use some weed or something to calm down because of difference of opinion. Pretty personal topic for you I must say. Carry on.

 

[Defilade]

I can't find any updates on the peace talks and how they're going or have gone.
Maybe it's too early for updates or results yet. IDK.

But it seems the talks have actually happened or are happening.
I didn't think they would.

Just another 2 weeks is all.

 

[Bigfoot]

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Except neither of the ships we claim are clearing the Strait of mines are our up close and personal Avenger Class minesweepers or one of our two dozen Littoral Independence Class /Austal or Freedom Class / Lockhead modulars rigged for more remote minesweeping (and replacing the Avenger class fiberglass and wood ships). Missle Destroyers ain't real mineseeepers.

Looks like this is more PR from a west wing desk than an effort to clear mines (if there even are new mines deployed). At least it shows that two US warships passed through unscathed.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post, but I don't see the claim in that tweet that those two ships are the ones clearing mines, the tweet says. "Transited the Straight of Hormuz and operated in the Arabian Gulf as part of a broader mission to ensure the straight is fully clear of sea mines."

The broader mission part.