$5 millionI wonder how much the commission to study slavery in NY is costing the taxpayers.
Ho Lee Fuk, the sentence above says a lot about NY.
And many of us didn’t live here or have a thing to do with it when it was.Just saying....
The United States is generally about 5 to 8 generations removed from the end of legal slavery in 1865
So did plenty of other ethnic groups across the globe since the birth of man kind. So what? No one is owed anything. If someone's not happy with what they have, they can lace up their bootstraps and do something different. Enough with this reparations grift.Descendants of U.S. slavery underwent a centuries-long process that produced a distinct American ethnic group. Those descendants occupy a unique legal and economic position in U.S. history, and reparations policy should centrally factor lineage in determining compensation.
My dad’s mom, came to America as an indentured servant,- from Ireland. You don’t see me pissing and moaning about it and crying for reparations…The first slaves brought to America were IRISH. Well before Africans were brought here.
Why is it that we never hear about Irish American people demanding reparations ? Is it just a different mindset ? Or maybe it's that "white privilege" I keep hearing about - even though they were slaves, they are white, so they recovered all on their own.
This is not a matter of inherited criminal liability. It's a question of unresolved institutional liability and intergenerational economic consequence.
Reparations arguments generally are not saying “you are guilty for what your ancestors did.” They are saying that current U.S. society is historically continuous with systems that produced lineage-specific intergenerational effects, and that those effects justify lineage-conscious remedies.
Whether someone’s ancestors fought for the Union is morally relevant historically, but doesn't erase the existence of the underlying institutional systems or their downstream consequences.
I’m pretty optimistic that this would be my line in the sand.
The fact that it's even being discussed at the state level should be an indicator that those serious conversations about moving are already overdue.If reparations actually go through to where they are going to pay, I think that's the point where my wife and I have a serious discussion about making a genuine plan, pulling the kids out of school and uprooting our lives.
It becomes much less idle talk and future ideas, and much more "this needs to happen".
If I had to stay in the area due to my wife's family situation, I would seriously consider just moving to Erie PA just to get out of NY.
The first slaves brought to America were IRISH. Well before Africans were brought here.
Why is it that we never hear about Irish American people demanding reparations ? Is it just a different mindset ? Or maybe it's that "white privilege" I keep hearing about - even though they were slaves, they are white, so they recovered all on their own.


This is exactly the same situation my wife and I are in. It would be a sacrifice, but a necessary oneIf reparations actually go through to where they are going to pay, I think that's the point where my wife and I have a serious discussion about making a genuine plan, pulling the kids out of school and uprooting our lives.
It becomes much less idle talk and future ideas, and much more "this needs to happen".
If I had to stay in the area due to my wife's family situation, I would seriously consider just moving to Erie PA just to get out of NY.
This is exactly the same situation my wife and I are in. It would be a sacrifice, but a necessary one
Your money can go farther elsewhere. Way of life (family/friends/etc) doesn't transfer over as well.This is exactly the same situation my wife and I are in. It would be a sacrifice, but a necessary one
I thought this would be difficult. Leaving friends and family.Your money can go farther elsewhere. Way of life (family/friends/etc) doesn't transfer over as well.
It's easier to leave them behind than you might want to believe though.
I was as well.I'm surprised it's only 28%.
I'm surprised it's only 28%.
There's plenty of white moochers out there too.I was as well.
Yes. JD Vance's book is actually quite good at describing the mindset of the welfare dependent in rural areas. There are quite a lot of them.There's plenty of white moochers out there too.
If you look at the math for 13% of a population to be 28% of a group, that makes them individually more than twice as likely to be in that group as the individuals in the other 87% of the population.
AgreedI thought this would be difficult. Leaving friends and family.
I built some amazing friendships over the years.
Turns out, was not all that difficult.
FWIW, Erie is pretty blue. You could do what we did, we set a drive time limit of 2 hours before we started looking. We ended up 15 mins past our limit, but it was worth it. We ended up in a very small conservative borough in one of the reddest counties in the state.If I had to stay in the area due to my wife's family situation, I would seriously consider just moving to Erie PA just to get out of NY
FWIW, Erie is pretty blue. You could do what we did, we set a drive time limit of 2 hours before we started looking. We ended up 15 mins past our limit, but it was worth it. We ended up in a very small conservative borough in one of the reddest counties in the state.
At a two hour drive, day trips are easy. We go right through the rez in each direction and top off our tanks. My wife has to go back to Buffalo once a month for her job so she usually spends a few days with our oldest and one of the grandchildren, or her parents.