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tirwin1 said:
Can you imagine the graft potential that would naturally arise? Overnight there would be so many firms offering historical documentation services so people could become eligible for reparations. It would make the "quality learing center" look legitimate in comparison.

I also think you'd have the same problem the Nazis did as they tried to pin down the definition of a jew. Did one grandparent make you Jewish? What percentage of Jewish blood crossed the threshold? Same problem here. What percentage of your ancestry was a former slave and what would be the threshold to receive reparations. This nonsense would be tied up in the courts for decades.
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You mean tens of thousands of Somalians would be able to qualify ? Why stop at 1965 :p
Reparations would involve a national apology, rights to the cannabis industry, financial payment, social service benefits, and land grants to every descendant of an enslaved African American and Black person a descendant of those living in the United States including during American slavery until the Jim Crow era. 1965
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Reparations

The NAACP reaffirms and stands in favor of financial reparations to African Americans and those of African Descent in the United States that are descendants of the slavery and the Jim Crow Era.
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An even more difficult question to honestly and uncomfortably consider, is those who are yelling the loudest for reparations, do you believe if they actually got them it would be helpful or harmful?

Ever see the multitude of stories on "broke lottery winners" who claim winning the lottery ruined their lives? There are many many people who have terrible financial awareness and decision making skills and falling into sudden wealth is a severe detriment to them.

I think it's uncomfortable to say, but many of the people yelling for reparations, if they actually got them would be a temporary boom and improvement but in short order they would be in worse position than if they never received them.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Can you imagine the graft potential that would naturally arise? Overnight there would be so many firms offering historical documentation services so people could become eligible for reparations. It would make the "quality learing center" look legitimate in comparison.

I also think you'd have the same problem the Nazis did as they tried to pin down the definition of a jew. Did one grandparent make you Jewish? What percentage of Jewish blood crossed the threshold? Same problem here. What percentage of your ancestry was a former slave and what would be the threshold to receive reparations. This nonsense would be tied up in the courts for decades.
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Chattel slavery and Jim Crow lasted for centuries. It is what it is.
 
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Rap said:
Chattel slavery and Jim Crow lasted for centuries. It is what it is.
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While Chattel slavery existed in the colonies and in the US, this form was not special on this side of the world.

As for the Jim Crow laws, they did not begin until 1870ish. Not centuries old.


This entire BS of free money is doing nothing but dividing this nation even more.

I am fine with that.
 
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Rap said:
Something like this:

Eligibility test:

* U.S. citizenship
* Self-identification as descended from people enslaved in the United States
* Documented ancestral connection to at least one person enslaved in the U.S. or legally classified within the post-slavery Freedmen population

Because records are incomplete, the proof standard should be preponderance of evidence.
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Surely that system wouldnt be rife with fraud.... ;)
 
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So Elon Musk gets $800K too!
I have copies of a family letter where a girl (realitive) was indentured to a family farm in Wisconsin but couldn't travel from Troy NY due to Indians on the war path.

Let me get this straight, I need other peoples money because well over 100 years ago "somebody did something" I ended up in the best country ever in history and refuse to work for it.
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tirwin1 said:
Not in this country. And my criticism remains unanswered. Are you expecting some sort of payday for your retirement?
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I'm not ready for retirement. And I would definitely put the money to work.
 
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None of my questions have been answered yet. I'd really like a clear understanding of what is being requested, who is eligible, and who is on the hook for it.

The logistics of administering a reparations settlement could be so complex that it's not even feasible.

If every black person in NY just agreed they would accept $1000 for verifiable evidence they are a direct descendant of an enslaved person, in NY, prior to the full abolition and complete emancipation in 1820, and then they'd never bring it up again, the current NY state legislature and governor would without much doubt be able to get that through for them in the very next budget. This would likely cost less then the $5 million NY already allocated to the creation of a commission to study reparations.

In about an hour of my time, I have found and openly shared proof of my family's link to slave ownership. I'm putting myself out there as someone the state could absolutely demand payment from (which I'll never pay) if the descendant of a slave became legally entitled to a financial settlement for what my ancestors did to their ancestors.

What exactly is the reparations crowd asking for? Y'all need to align on something, because as much as I disagree with it, NY would probably give it to you. Don't be fooled though. Everything they give you will come with a scheme to take it back from you just as fast.
 
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NYC version is even more expensive than the statewide equivalent. NYC says theirs is only intended for the descendants of African slaves.

The funny part is these offices and committees can basically be funded forever, enriching a few, and never actually accomplishing the stated goal.

If I was the descendant of an African slave, I would be pissed at the people funding and running these programs. They are why there will never be reparations.

www.foxnews.com

Mamdani allocates $500K for reparations talks as NYC faces $5.4B deficit

Under Mayor Mamdani, New York City has set aside $500,000 to fund community discussions on reparations and other forms of assistance for Black New Yorkers despite a budget deficit.
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Read these two paragraphs and see if you can spot the scam. This is just NYC. NY state running the same con game.

In his preliminary budget, released in February, Mamdani requested $4.6 million for the Commission on Racial Equity (CORE), the body responsible for holding the reparations talks, and an additional $5.6 million for the Office of Racial Equity. The more than $10 million in combined funding for the two municipal bodies would represent a roughly $3 million increase from the prior year.

CORE will continue its work on "Reparations, Truth, Healing and Reconciliation" until it releases its July 2027 "Final report for Reparations Study" and its June 2028 "Implementation for Truth, Healing and Reconciliation Plan," according to its website.
 
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Basically stating Africans are incapable of taking care of themselves.
Carpet baggers went south, slavers went Democrat; and the slaves never figured it out.
No slavery in the U.S.A. for generations yet it is still going on in the home land. Why not go after the oil rich countries who were/are up to their eyeballs in slavery?
Because they will chop off your head?
 
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