Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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On Monday there was unpublicized meeting in Turkey between CIA director Burns and his Russian counterpart Sergey Naryshkin. I am guessing they didn't meet to talk about writings of Dostoyevsky. Few days later there were arrests of Ukrainian linked terrorists in Italy and noticeable softening of love affair between Ukraine and Pentagon. When Biden was asked about a missile landing in Poland, it was obvious he already knew from the start who did it.

CIA Director Bill Burns met with Russian counterpart Monday | CNN Politics

CIA Director Bill Burns met with his Russian intelligence counterpart, Sergey Naryshkin, in Ankara Monday as part of an ongoing effort by the US to "communicate with Russia on managing risk" and to discuss the cases of "unjustly detained US citizens," a National Security Council spokesperson...

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I'm sure they have other desires, but I'm not sure I'd call them plans.

Russia is completely outclassed by the power of the NATO military industrial base. They can keep throwing what's left of their youth into the meat grinder with old Soviet era weapons all they want. Raytheon is laughing all the way to the bank.

They're setting themselves up for an utter demographic collapse at best.

I dont think so. If I hand you a samurai sword does it make you a samurai? If I hand you an M4 does it make you a Ranger?

Its not all about the weapons. Case in point, Ukraine has been NATO trained and equipped for the last eight years, some say it was the best army in Europe it was pretty much decimated in the first few months by an army with inferior equipment. That army holds nearly 25% of Ukraine and cannot be driven out with the best the west has sent.

Ill give you this, the russian leadership sucks, thier new battlegroups suck. Your going to see a different war in the coming months once their mobilization is complete. They made some mistakes , no doubt about it. but they are not going to run out of ammo or lose.

 

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US Army General Mark Milley:

''Ukraine should think about negotiating with the Russian Federation to resolve the situation since it will be extremely difficult for Kyiv to achieve a military victory. We are all well aware that the military task, which is to physically achieve the expulsion of Russians from Ukraine, is very difficult. And this will not happen any time soon unless there is a complete collapse of the Russian army, which is unlikely. Therefore, the likelihood of a military victory for Ukraine, defined as the expulsion of Russians from all of Ukraine, including Crimea, the likelihood of such a development of events in any near future is low. This problem can be solved politically. The Russians can leave the territory of Ukraine only following the political decision that we must achieve during future negotiations with the Russian Federation''

 

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I dont think so. If I hand you a samurai sword does it make you a samurai? If I hand you an M4 does it make you a Ranger?

Its not all about the weapons. Case in point, Ukraine has been NATO trained and equipped for the last eight years, some say it was the best army in Europe it was pretty much decimated in the first few months by an army with inferior equipment. That army holds nearly 25% of Ukraine and cannot be driven out with the best the west has sent.

Ill give you this, the russian leadership sucks, thier new battlegroups suck. Your going to see a different war in the coming months once their mobilization is complete. They made some mistakes , no doubt about it. but they are not going to run out of ammo or lose.

The new mobilization is literally Russia sending in the 2nd string untrained troops.

They have already run out of all their 1st choice weapons.

So they're going to be sending in untrained kids with antiques.

Ukraine is doing exactly as well as the west wants them to. No more, no less.

If they start to lose, they'll start getting better stuff. They have never gotten tip of the line.

If they start winning too much while there are still Russians to kill, then suddenly we will discover fiscal responsibility and cut back their supplies.

If we wanted this to be over Russia wouldn't have made it through March, and that's without NATO boots on the ground.

 

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Russia fires cruise missiles with nuclear warhead simulator at Ukraine

One of the two cruise missiles shot down over Kyiv on 17 November was equipped with a simulator of a nuclear warhead, writes Defense Express. Source: Defense Express with reference to its own sources ...

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Russia fires mock nuclear warhead at Ukraine—Kyiv

Russia pummelled Ukraine on Thursday with a wave of missile strikes on cities including Kyiv, Dnipro, and the Odesa and Kharkiv oblasts.

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It's super strange to use that tactic and I have no idea what Russia is trying to do there I can't even speculate v

Maybe to see if ukraine air defense can intercept it or not?

 

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Did someone say, foreign aid audit?

 

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They have already run out of all their 1st choice weapons.

So they're going to be sending in untrained kids with antiques.

They've run out of weapons? and they still cant drive the Russians out?

They have only mobilized prior service people. People who have already been trained , Some who have saw action in several places.

But they are most likely going to use those troops in for holding defensive positions or in jobs like cooks or transport freeing up the younger guys to fight.

to throw you a bone, the Ukrainians have done well in dug in positions and stopping the Russians at certain key places. But thats not winning .

 

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UN watchdog position created by Hillary to fabricate war crimes and weaponized viagra bullshit.

 

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They've run out of weapons? and they still cant drive the Russians out?

They have only mobilized prior service people. People who have already been trained , Some who have saw action in several places.

But they are most likely going to use those troops in for holding defensive positions or in jobs like cooks or transport freeing up the younger guys to fight.

to throw you a bone, the Ukrainians have done well in dug in positions and stopping the Russians at certain key places. But thats not winning .

I said they ran out of their 1st choice weapons.

That is why they are not using precision weapons anymore, they ran out.

That is why they are sending in Soviet era tanks. They are out of modern ones.

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They aren't out of all weapons, just modern ones.

 

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Run away... Run away...

 

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I said they ran out of their 1st choice weapons.

That is why they are not using precision weapons anymore, they ran out.

That is why they are sending in Soviet era tanks. They are out of modern ones.

Etc... etc...

They aren't out of all weapons, just modern ones.

The last two days Ukraine was hit with around 150 cruise missiles. They have imported thousands of Iranian drones , I dont even think the T80 T90 tanks have even been deployed yet. At least, I haven't seen them .They are holding back their air force and probably thier best armor in case NATO jumps in . Even during the cold war, it was estimated the Russians had 15-20,000 tanks (not tier one) but they arent even close to using up thier armor yet. The Ukrainians even admitted the Russians out gun them in artillery 20 to 1 . The Russians invaded with 150-200,000 troops against Ukrainian army of 150-700,000 ( source dependent) They never expected a big fight . Dont buy the bullshit, they have plenty enough weapons to fight with .and they can purchase whatever they need from other sources if they had to

 

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UN watchdog position created by Hillary to fabricate war crimes and weaponized viagra bullshit.

Not for nothing, Those young guys dont need any viagra they havent seen a woman in months they most likely have blue balls . the viagara thing doesnt make any sense

 

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Explosion hits Russian gas pipeline amid suspicions of sabotage

The fireball was visible for miles in every direction after hitting about 14 miles east of St Petersburg, the nation's second largest city and Putin's hometown.

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Not for nothing, Those young guys dont need any viagra they havent seen a woman in months they most likely have blue balls . the viagara thing doesnt make any sense

Looking at her, it may very well be her fantasy.

 

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Different conflict, Maybe????

Looks like turkey is doing a hell of a number on Syria and Iraq. Massive Air Force attacks on many multiple locations.

 

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️ Points hit by the Turkish air force so far:

Ain Digna
Menag Airport
Ayn Al Arab
Khafaya Al-Salem silos
Tal Rifat
Mara'naz
Malikiyah

 

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- Reports of Turkish convoys entering Syria.

Ground troops by the thousands will be there within 24 hours.

 

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Explosions in Tehran.


iranian attack against Kurds in Mahabad


Kurdistan Republic of Mahabad (officially Kurdistan Republic, Kurdish: Komara Kurdistan), also called as People’s Republic of Mahabad, was one of four Kurdish nation states in the 20th century. It stood 11 months in today’s northwestern Iran. With the Republic of Ararat, there had already been a trial in northern Kurdistan 15 years earlier, but it failed.

Kurdistan Republic of Mahabad - KurdishPeople.Org

Kurdistan Republic of Mahabad (officially Kurdistan Republic, Kurdish: Komara Kurdistan) was one of four Kurdish nation states in the 20th century.

kurdishpeople.org

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At the same time that Iran attacked the Kurdish city of Mahabad with armored vehicles, the invading Turkish state also attacked the Kurdish city of Kobanê with warplanes. If the western world does not stand up to the eastern bloc, it will be too late. Erdogan is Putin's governor

 

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looks like The Turks syrians and the Iranians have had about enough of the US backed Kurds

 

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On Monday there was unpublicized meeting in Turkey between CIA director Burns and his Russian counterpart Sergey Naryshkin. I am guessing they didn't meet to talk about writings of Dostoyevsky.

looks like it may have been more to it than that

 

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Seems like all of the attacks, Syria, Iran and Iraq are showing others; they are all tired of the American involvement.

 

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Sounds like ""30 seconds"" in English at the 12 second mark. Could be anything I guess. But I like to take notes.

 

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